Question re: setting up own cam website

[xstreamium]

I'm currently starting my own adult webcam streaming website and was curious to get some feedback from camgirls on this site on what is the most important aspects of an adult webcam streaming website you all look into the most ? Like I'm assuming payout and the such but anything else ? Thanks!

 

[Sevrin]

Traffic. Paying traffic, to be precise.

 

[xstreamium]

Traffic. Paying traffic, to be precise.

I had a feeling that would be a big selling point of course. Good point.

 

[FoxyBea]

Put models first but make it look like you put members first. In my opinion, that's part of what makes MFC so successful. They really do put models before members, but at the same time make members feel super special.

 

[xstreamium]

Put models first but make it look like you put members first. In my opinion, that's part of what makes MFC so successful. They really do put models before members, but at the same time make members feel super special.

Thanks. This really is the #1 thing I was thinking about. The goal of the site is to empower the camgirls 100% and you are right it will all be about them. The end user experience will naturally come from it. The best way I think to put the girls #1st is to offer 100 % of profit they keep. Not sure if anyone else does this.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

Put models first but make it look like you put members first. In my opinion, that's part of what makes MFC so successful. They really do put models before members, but at the same time make members feel super special.

Thanks. This really is the #1 thing I was thinking about. The goal of the site is to empower the camgirls 100% and you are right it will all be about them. The end user experience will naturally come from it. The best way I think to put the girls #1st is to offer 100 % of profit they keep. Not sure if anyone else does this.

Nobody else does this because it is practically impossible, but I'd love to hear how you plan to do so.

 

[xstreamium]

Put models first but make it look like you put members first. In my opinion, that's part of what makes MFC so successful. They really do put models before members, but at the same time make members feel super special.

Thanks. This really is the #1 thing I was thinking about. The goal of the site is to empower the camgirls 100% and you are right it will all be about them. The end user experience will naturally come from it. The best way I think to put the girls #1st is to offer 100 % of profit they keep. Not sure if anyone else does this.

Nobody else does this because it is practically impossible, but I'd love to hear how you plan to do so.

Ah good to know for sure. I sent a PM to you explaining it. Thanks!

 

[Sevrin]

Put models first but make it look like you put members first. In my opinion, that's part of what makes MFC so successful. They really do put models before members, but at the same time make members feel super special.

Thanks. This really is the #1 thing I was thinking about. The goal of the site is to empower the camgirls 100% and you are right it will all be about them. The end user experience will naturally come from it. The best way I think to put the girls #1st is to offer 100 % of profit they keep. Not sure if anyone else does this.

Nobody else does this because it is practically impossible, but I'd love to hear how you plan to do so.

100% of the profit is not the same as 100% of revenue. Profit comes after deducting payment processing costs, bandwidth, site maintenance and development, amortization of start-up costs, interest on debt, promotional expenses, management salaries, bad debts (CC fraud & chargebacks), taxes, etc.

 

[xstreamium]

Put models first but make it look like you put members first. In my opinion, that's part of what makes MFC so successful. They really do put models before members, but at the same time make members feel super special.

Thanks. This really is the #1 thing I was thinking about. The goal of the site is to empower the camgirls 100% and you are right it will all be about them. The end user experience will naturally come from it. The best way I think to put the girls #1st is to offer 100 % of profit they keep. Not sure if anyone else does this.

Nobody else does this because it is practically impossible, but I'd love to hear how you plan to do so.

100% of the profit is not the same as 100% of revenue. Profit comes after deducting payment processing costs, bandwidth, site maintenance and development, amortization of start-up costs, interest on debt, promotional expenses, management salaries, bad debts (CC fraud & chargebacks), taxes, etc.

Sevrin, I get where you are coming from. Our costs will not effect the amount of profit you take. This will always be 100 % in fact, we have no choice but to make it 100 % as the technology automatically pays you. I know it sounds odd ,but our processing costs are zero, bandwidth will only be site traffic NOT streaming as we are going to use a p2p system , site maintenance /dev is already covered and paid for. There will be no chargebacks/CC fraud we are using only one payment system and that is Bitcoin. After, talking to Mollie I've heard there has been some controversial threads around this and didn't know! so please forgive me. What we'll do is convert it to Cash if need be as I was just told what most want to see happen. Try to give me a chance haha Thanks!

edit: I guess give me your 'dream cam site' and I'll see what I can do .

 

[Amberlie_]

I think you're crazy to even think of doing this. You will go bankrupt. Use your money instead to develop a service camgirls can use like statistical analytics, admin and tax programs or apps, profile resources, marketing materials, advertising etc. We can always use (and pay) for those things. Attempting to start a camsite is not going to work, it costs too much, you will not get the traffic, girls won't sign up, and you'll go bust in under a year!

 

[yummybrownfox]

I think you're crazy to even think of doing this. You will go bankrupt. Use your money instead to develop a service camgirls can use like statistical analytics, admin and tax programs or apps, profile resources, marketing materials, advertising etc. We can always use (and pay) for those things. Attempting to start a camsite is not going to work, it costs too much, you will not get the traffic, girls won't sign up, and you'll go bust in under a year!

This. There are already sooo many cam sites out there (even some that were created by cam girls themselves) and independent cam girl listings (CamModelDirectory, etc.) that have already gained traffic and loyalty from models/members. Like KatieBaby said, you should just brainstorm about other cam girl services you could offer.

 

[xstreamium]

I think you're crazy to even think of doing this. You will go bankrupt. Use your money instead to develop a service camgirls can use like statistical analytics, admin and tax programs or apps, profile resources, marketing materials, advertising etc. We can always use (and pay) for those things. Attempting to start a camsite is not going to work, it costs too much, you will not get the traffic, girls won't sign up, and you'll go bust in under a year!

Hi xKatieBabyx thanks for the feedback. I suppose the main reason I wanted to do this is because there is basically no cost or otherwise I wouldn't be doing it I think the fact its the first to ever use pay-per-second-bitcoin streaming will make it a pretty popular media item. But who knows! That is the point of risk taking right ? The other options you mention aren't a bad idea here.

 

[xstreamium]

I think you're crazy to even think of doing this. You will go bankrupt. Use your money instead to develop a service camgirls can use like statistical analytics, admin and tax programs or apps, profile resources, marketing materials, advertising etc. We can always use (and pay) for those things. Attempting to start a camsite is not going to work, it costs too much, you will not get the traffic, girls won't sign up, and you'll go bust in under a year!

This. There are already sooo many cam sites out there (even some that were created by cam girls themselves) and independent cam girl listings (CamModelDirectory, etc.) that have already gained traffic and loyalty from models/members. Like KatieBaby said, you should just brainstorm about other cam girl services you could offer.

Thanks Songbird_Shelly! What other services are in need ? like specifically. This idea is already almost done so it would be pointless to throw it away now . I was more asking what you would like to see in a site not if it was going to cost me to much The site is going to be done regardless because its so cheap to do.

 

[AerynShade]

Ah, the old Bitcoin idea. Perhaps you should search the forum for the word "Bitcoin" and see how others have fared.

 

[Sevrin]

Thanks Songbird_Shelly! What other services are in need ? like specifically. This idea is already almost done so it would be pointless to throw it away now . I was more asking what you would like to see in a site not if it was going to cost me to much The site is going to be done regardless because its so cheap to do.

This sounds like a vanity project. I would never get involved in a venture where the promoter didn't have something to lose if it goes bust. If the site owner does not have a substantial investment at stake, what's to stop him from getting bored and walking away, leaving models with nothing to show for the time they have invested generated a following there?

If I were a model, I would be less attracted by a 100% payout than by a site that spends money on bringing me traffic, of which there are already several successful ones to choose from.

 

[Amberlie_]

Models will not sign up. We don't use Bitcoin, we don't use new sites that have no traffic, we don't fall for 100% payout (100% of nothing is still nothing). It will not work. Any money you lose backing out now will be less than you will lose later on trust me. You have clearly not even done any research. Stripperweb, xbiz, gfy etc are FULL of threads from wannabe camsite owners and they all end exactly the same way!

 

[xstreamium]

Thanks Songbird_Shelly! What other services are in need ? like specifically. This idea is already almost done so it would be pointless to throw it away now . I was more asking what you would like to see in a site not if it was going to cost me to much The site is going to be done regardless because its so cheap to do.

This sounds like a vanity project. I would never get involved in a venture where the promoter didn't have something to lose if it goes bust. If the site owner does not have a substantial investment at stake, what's to stop him from getting bored and walking away, leaving models with nothing to show for the time they have invested generated a following there?

If I were a model, I would be less attracted by a 100% payout than by a site that spends money on bringing me traffic, of which there are already several successful ones to choose from.

I'm not sure I said I didn't have anything to loose ? I just said it wouldn't cost that much as compared to your typical webcam site. If the project is profitable be no reason to walk away. Will if it gets decent traffic which it will then shouldn't be an issue.

 

[xstreamium]

Models will not sign up. We don't use Bitcoin, we don't use new sites that have no traffic, we don't fall for 100% payout (100% of nothing is still nothing). It will not work. Any money you lose backing out now will be less than you will lose later on trust me. You have clearly not even done any research. Stripperweb, xbiz, gfy etc are FULL of threads from wannabe camsite owners and they all end exactly the same way!

Of course its going to have traffic and plenty of it. I have top SEO people working on it and have plenty of paid traffic set-up. So traffic won't be an issue. The difference between those cam sites is the mechanism of how it works. I'm not saying this is going to be the 'cam site' where you making a living ( at least not yet ) this is a good filler site IMHO. Those all failed because of failed methods. I get where your coming from though and will take into consideration. The project is already done so its not like I haven't done the necessary research I was here to hear about what makes a good webcam site in your opinion. Big difference!

I mean lets put it this way if building a webcam site cost 1/3 less ( even less I think ) then those mentioned above then I'm far ahead of the game I would think.

 

[PornHowTo]

Models will not sign up. We don't use Bitcoin, we don't use new sites that have no traffic, we don't fall for 100% payout (100% of nothing is still nothing). It will not work. Any money you lose backing out now will be less than you will lose later on trust me. You have clearly not even done any research. Stripperweb, xbiz, gfy etc are FULL of threads from wannabe camsite owners and they all end exactly the same way!

Of course its going to have traffic and plenty of it. I have top SEO people working on it and have plenty of paid traffic set-up. So traffic won't be an issue. The difference between those cam sites is the mechanism of how it works. I'm not saying this is going to be the 'cam site' where you making a living ( at least not yet ) this is a good filler site IMHO. Those all failed because of failed methods. I get where your coming from though and will take into consideration. The project is already done so its not like I haven't done the necessary research I was here to hear about what makes a good webcam site in your opinion. Big difference!

I mean lets put it this way if building a webcam site cost 1/3 less ( even less I think ) then those mentioned above then I'm far ahead of the game I would think.

If it's not going to be the "cam site where you make a living" and just a "good filler site" why would any model in their right mind even bother signing up? Also, what is "plenty" of traffic to you? The top cam sites are getting millions of unique visitors every day. How are your SEO people going to rank a brand new site organically for any high competition density search terms? How have you lowered the barrier to entry for viewers to purchase BTC? 95% of the population are not going to be able to figure out how to set up a bitcoin wallet or buy BTC unless you make it stupid proof for them. I'm not trying to be a negative nancy, just posing some questions. Good luck. :handgestures-salute:

 

[xstreamium]

Models will not sign up. We don't use Bitcoin, we don't use new sites that have no traffic, we don't fall for 100% payout (100% of nothing is still nothing). It will not work. Any money you lose backing out now will be less than you will lose later on trust me. You have clearly not even done any research. Stripperweb, xbiz, gfy etc are FULL of threads from wannabe camsite owners and they all end exactly the same way!

Of course its going to have traffic and plenty of it. I have top SEO people working on it and have plenty of paid traffic set-up. So traffic won't be an issue. The difference between those cam sites is the mechanism of how it works. I'm not saying this is going to be the 'cam site' where you making a living ( at least not yet ) this is a good filler site IMHO. Those all failed because of failed methods. I get where your coming from though and will take into consideration. The project is already done so its not like I haven't done the necessary research I was here to hear about what makes a good webcam site in your opinion. Big difference!

I mean lets put it this way if building a webcam site cost 1/3 less ( even less I think ) then those mentioned above then I'm far ahead of the game I would think.

If it's not going to be the "cam site where you make a living" and just a "good filler site" why would any model in their right mind even bother signing up? Also, what is "plenty" of traffic to you? The top cam sites are getting millions of unique visitors every day. How are your SEO people going to rank a brand new site organically for any high competition density search terms? How have you lowered the barrier to entry for viewers to purchase BTC? 95% of the population are not going to be able to figure out how to set up a bitcoin wallet or buy BTC unless you make it stupid proof for them. I'm not trying to be a negative nancy, just posing some questions. Good luck. :handgestures-salute:

There are plenty of part-time cam models and cam models who might want to do it 1, 2 days a week right ? So grant it it will be for them and if it works for them they will come on more. The site itself is going to be more of social media site so we are taking a different approach then most of the webcam sites mentioned above so the traffic is going to be heavily niche/ Bitcon geared ( grant you that ) ,but at least heavily targeted. I'm not to concerned about the need to purchase BTC as the market cap of BTC out there is well north of 4 Billion ( essentially tokens in the hands of people already ) , but of course there will be easy ways to purchase it with your credit card if need be. As for making it easy for webcam girls to get a wallet address you could be right , but will work on making it easy. If they know how to copy and paste then it should be fine. No worries I already knew there would be questions and skepticism and appreciate all the feedback! I'm not saying this could fail , it easily could but sometimes its good to take risks

 

[SaffronBurke]

Models will not sign up. We don't use Bitcoin, we don't use new sites that have no traffic, we don't fall for 100% payout (100% of nothing is still nothing). It will not work. Any money you lose backing out now will be less than you will lose later on trust me. You have clearly not even done any research. Stripperweb, xbiz, gfy etc are FULL of threads from wannabe camsite owners and they all end exactly the same way!

Of course its going to have traffic and plenty of it. I have top SEO people working on it and have plenty of paid traffic set-up. So traffic won't be an issue. The difference between those cam sites is the mechanism of how it works. I'm not saying this is going to be the 'cam site' where you making a living ( at least not yet ) this is a good filler site IMHO. Those all failed because of failed methods. I get where your coming from though and will take into consideration. The project is already done so its not like I haven't done the necessary research I was here to hear about what makes a good webcam site in your opinion. Big difference!

I mean lets put it this way if building a webcam site cost 1/3 less ( even less I think ) then those mentioned above then I'm far ahead of the game I would think.

If it's not going to be the "cam site where you make a living" and just a "good filler site" why would any model in their right mind even bother signing up? Also, what is "plenty" of traffic to you? The top cam sites are getting millions of unique visitors every day. How are your SEO people going to rank a brand new site organically for any high competition density search terms? How have you lowered the barrier to entry for viewers to purchase BTC? 95% of the population are not going to be able to figure out how to set up a bitcoin wallet or buy BTC unless you make it stupid proof for them. I'm not trying to be a negative nancy, just posing some questions. Good luck. :handgestures-salute:

There are plenty of part-time cam models and cam models who might want to do it 1, 2 days a week right ? So grant it it will be for them and if it works for them they will come on more. The site itself is going to be more of social media site so we are taking a different approach then most of the webcam sites mentioned above so the traffic is going to be heavily niche/ Bitcon geared ( grant you that ) ,but at least heavily targeted. I'm not to concerned about the need to purchase BTC as the market cap of BTC out there is well north of 4 Billion ( essentially tokens in the hands of people already ) , but of course there will be easy ways to purchase it with your credit card if need be. As for making it easy for webcam girls to get a wallet address you could be right , but will work on making it easy. If they know how to copy and paste then it should be fine. No worries I already knew there would be questions and skepticism and appreciate all the feedback! I'm not saying this could fail , it easily could but sometimes its good to take risks

You could technically call me a "part-time model", since I cam to supplement my income from an office job. And, let me tell you, marketing yourself to that demographic isn't going to work.

Speaking for myself, even though camming isn't my highest-paying job, I still want to cam on the website where I make the most money. Streammate has a considerably lower payout percentage than MFC or Chaturbate, but since most of the traffic is coming into my room with their dick in one hand and their credit card in the other, ready to spend money on me, I take home at least double at the end of a shift, and that's with far less hustle.

Even people camming as a side job or as supplemental income want to make as much as possible from it. If we didn't, we'd be pulling a second job at the mall, or in fast food. We want a camsite that we COULD make a living off of if shit hit the fan and we lost our other job. A "filler site" just isn't that appealing, even to full-time models looking for a second site - lots of girls cam on either MFC, Streammate, or Chaturbate, with one or both of the others as backup, because you can make considerable income on any of those sites.

 

[xstreamium]

Models will not sign up. We don't use Bitcoin, we don't use new sites that have no traffic, we don't fall for 100% payout (100% of nothing is still nothing). It will not work. Any money you lose backing out now will be less than you will lose later on trust me. You have clearly not even done any research. Stripperweb, xbiz, gfy etc are FULL of threads from wannabe camsite owners and they all end exactly the same way!

Of course its going to have traffic and plenty of it. I have top SEO people working on it and have plenty of paid traffic set-up. So traffic won't be an issue. The difference between those cam sites is the mechanism of how it works. I'm not saying this is going to be the 'cam site' where you making a living ( at least not yet ) this is a good filler site IMHO. Those all failed because of failed methods. I get where your coming from though and will take into consideration. The project is already done so its not like I haven't done the necessary research I was here to hear about what makes a good webcam site in your opinion. Big difference!

I mean lets put it this way if building a webcam site cost 1/3 less ( even less I think ) then those mentioned above then I'm far ahead of the game I would think.

If it's not going to be the "cam site where you make a living" and just a "good filler site" why would any model in their right mind even bother signing up? Also, what is "plenty" of traffic to you? The top cam sites are getting millions of unique visitors every day. How are your SEO people going to rank a brand new site organically for any high competition density search terms? How have you lowered the barrier to entry for viewers to purchase BTC? 95% of the population are not going to be able to figure out how to set up a bitcoin wallet or buy BTC unless you make it stupid proof for them. I'm not trying to be a negative nancy, just posing some questions. Good luck. :handgestures-salute:

There are plenty of part-time cam models and cam models who might want to do it 1, 2 days a week right ? So grant it it will be for them and if it works for them they will come on more. The site itself is going to be more of social media site so we are taking a different approach then most of the webcam sites mentioned above so the traffic is going to be heavily niche/ Bitcon geared ( grant you that ) ,but at least heavily targeted. I'm not to concerned about the need to purchase BTC as the market cap of BTC out there is well north of 4 Billion ( essentially tokens in the hands of people already ) , but of course there will be easy ways to purchase it with your credit card if need be. As for making it easy for webcam girls to get a wallet address you could be right , but will work on making it easy. If they know how to copy and paste then it should be fine. No worries I already knew there would be questions and skepticism and appreciate all the feedback! I'm not saying this could fail , it easily could but sometimes its good to take risks

You could technically call me a "part-time model", since I cam to supplement my income from an office job. And, let me tell you, marketing yourself to that demographic isn't going to work.

Speaking for myself, even though camming isn't my highest-paying job, I still want to cam on the website where I make the most money. Streammate has a considerably lower payout percentage than MFC or Chaturbate, but since most of the traffic is coming into my room with their dick in one hand and their credit card in the other, ready to spend money on me, I take home at least double at the end of a shift, and that's with far less hustle.

Even people camming as a side job or as supplemental income want to make as much as possible from it. If we didn't, we'd be pulling a second job at the mall, or in fast food. We want a camsite that we COULD make a living off of if shit hit the fan and we lost our other job. A "filler site" just isn't that appealing, even to full-time models looking for a second site - lots of girls cam on either MFC, Streammate, or Chaturbate, with one or both of the others as backup, because you can make considerable income on any of those sites.

That isn't the demographic that we are marketing to just so happens that is the market we are most likely are going to have to cater to at the start. Will of course you want to go with the highest paying streaming site and we feel we can be that still ( even if you do it for a day or two ) , or at least your time will spent with 100 % of the profit going to you. Maybe, that is where we make up things. In someways, the 100 % profit could add up to an extra day somewhere else as it seems sites take a big chunk. It will be interesting to see no doubt. Still interested in knowing what else you all would like in a camsite specifically. I should have clarified the software is being used this way currently, they create a link and stream per-second-bitcoin so anyone really is picking it up and running with it just we are making a website/directory around the software as currently there isn't any such site and people are asking for it.

 

[xstreamium]

Also, I like Mollie_ suggestions any others you can think of ?

Other features that are important to me as a performer:

• Ability to block/ban viewers
  Ability to remove offensive content from chat (troll comments, rudeness, etc.)
  cam2cam
  Privacy, security, geoblocking
  The quality of my stream
  Ability to send private messages in chat and offline
  An area to make notes on a member for easy reference, perhaps also showing their history in shows

 

[yummybrownfox]

What other services are in need ? like specifically.

You'll have to ask the cam girls on here. XKatieBabyx had some good ideas she listed in a previous post.

 

[Amberlie_]

You are, word for word, saying EXACTLY the same as every other wannabe camsite owner that I have seen post on all the adult forums over the years. They all failed. one (xpeeeps) struggled along for a bit and even looked like it might make it... then failed too. You have no hope, none whatsoever. You're crazy! The fact that you won't even listen to the people who are your only hope of making money (the cam girls!) just says everything. All your 'traffic' means nothing if they are not interested in paying the girls on your site, which they won't be, since there aren't going to be any.

But anyway, have fun!

 

[xstreamium]

You are, word for word, saying EXACTLY the same as every other wannabe camsite owner that I have seen post on all the adult forums over the years. They all failed. one (xpeeeps) struggled along for a bit and even looked like it might make it... then failed too. You have no hope, none whatsoever. You're crazy! The fact that you won't even listen to the people who are your only hope of making money (the cam girls!) just says everything. All your 'traffic' means nothing if they are not interested in paying the girls on your site, which they won't be, since there aren't going to be any.

But anyway, have fun!

So I'm just wondering should there never ever be any new webcam sites ? I mean people have to start somewhere. I'm not following your logic ? Why does it matter if I fail ? Its effects me not you. I've never understood people who are such downers on things . But, you are entitled to your opinion

 

[Ann_Sulu]

You are, word for word, saying EXACTLY the same as every other wannabe camsite owner that I have seen post on all the adult forums over the years. They all failed. one (xpeeeps) struggled along for a bit and even looked like it might make it... then failed too. You have no hope, none whatsoever. You're crazy! The fact that you won't even listen to the people who are your only hope of making money (the cam girls!) just says everything. All your 'traffic' means nothing if they are not interested in paying the girls on your site, which they won't be, since there aren't going to be any.

But anyway, have fun!

So I'm just wondering should there never ever be any new webcam sites ? I mean people have to start somewhere. I'm not following your logic ? Why does it matter if I fail ? Its effects me not you. I've never understood people who are such downers on things . But, you are entitled to your opinion

It sadly does affect us...a lot. We often get people saying "Why not try such&such.com? I hear they listen to their models/have a large payout" etc. The cammers who do cam there will often in turn waste precious time and energy camming there, when they could be on a site that is know to be reliable enough. I've tried and bombed on camsites throughout the years wasting my time to only have 0 traffic, rude camsites that wouldn't respond to cammers, and even camsites that paid their cammers late or not at all. I actually don't even know the number of sites I've signed up for in the past, but I'm sure I have a name for every finger at least.

Basically, it's not that camsites shouldn't try, it's just don't go in balls to the wall expecting it to be easy. Best case scenario for you if you don't turn out to be the next top site will likely be what happened to my last site (KinkLive). They were great to their models, we made 60% payout, we got ok traffic, able to sell videos and links easy...they overshot it, and now they'll be owned by Streamate starting July.

Sadly I doubt anyone here will be able to offer you a fullproof plan for doing this. Good luck in whatever you choose to do though. :thumbleft:

 

[xstreamium]

You are, word for word, saying EXACTLY the same as every other wannabe camsite owner that I have seen post on all the adult forums over the years. They all failed. one (xpeeeps) struggled along for a bit and even looked like it might make it... then failed too. You have no hope, none whatsoever. You're crazy! The fact that you won't even listen to the people who are your only hope of making money (the cam girls!) just says everything. All your 'traffic' means nothing if they are not interested in paying the girls on your site, which they won't be, since there aren't going to be any.

But anyway, have fun!

So I'm just wondering should there never ever be any new webcam sites ? I mean people have to start somewhere. I'm not following your logic ? Why does it matter if I fail ? Its effects me not you. I've never understood people who are such downers on things . But, you are entitled to your opinion

It sadly does affect us...a lot. We often get people saying "Why not try such&such.com? I hear they listen to their models/have a large payout" etc. The cammers who do cam there will often in turn waste precious time and energy camming there, when they could be on a site that is know to be reliable enough. I've tried and bombed on camsites throughout the years wasting my time to only have 0 traffic, rude camsites that wouldn't respond to cammers, and even camsites that paid their cammers late or not at all. I actually don't even know the number of sites I've signed up for in the past, but I'm sure I have a name for every finger at least.

Basically, it's not that camsites shouldn't try, it's just don't go in balls to the wall expecting it to be easy. Best case scenario for you if you don't turn out to be the next top site will likely be what happened to my last site (KinkLive). They were great to their models, we made 60% payout, we got ok traffic, able to sell videos and links easy...they overshot it, and now they'll be owned by Streamate starting July.

Sadly I doubt anyone here will be able to offer you a fullproof plan for doing this. Good luck in whatever you choose to do though. :thumbleft:

It would only effect you if you weren't getting the payout you seek right ? So you would find another webcam site that does I think that's just how the free market works. I never said it would be easy, I just said I know how to cut down on my costs and give you the most profits , or in this case 100 % of the profits. Of course, this is going to take work nothing is ever easy. My whole point of coming here is to find out what it is you look for in a webcam site and I agree the camgirl is the #1 client in reality. Thanks for the good luck I'll need it yes When I launch it shortly in the next week or so I'll post you the links of all the major media outlets that will be covering it.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

You are, word for word, saying EXACTLY the same as every other wannabe camsite owner that I have seen post on all the adult forums over the years. They all failed. one (xpeeeps) struggled along for a bit and even looked like it might make it... then failed too. You have no hope, none whatsoever. You're crazy! The fact that you won't even listen to the people who are your only hope of making money (the cam girls!) just says everything. All your 'traffic' means nothing if they are not interested in paying the girls on your site, which they won't be, since there aren't going to be any.

But anyway, have fun!

So I'm just wondering should there never ever be any new webcam sites ? I mean people have to start somewhere. I'm not following your logic ? Why does it matter if I fail ? Its effects me not you. I've never understood people who are such downers on things . But, you are entitled to your opinion

It sadly does affect us...a lot. We often get people saying "Why not try such&such.com? I hear they listen to their models/have a large payout" etc. The cammers who do cam there will often in turn waste precious time and energy camming there, when they could be on a site that is know to be reliable enough. I've tried and bombed on camsites throughout the years wasting my time to only have 0 traffic, rude camsites that wouldn't respond to cammers, and even camsites that paid their cammers late or not at all. I actually don't even know the number of sites I've signed up for in the past, but I'm sure I have a name for every finger at least.

Basically, it's not that camsites shouldn't try, it's just don't go in balls to the wall expecting it to be easy. Best case scenario for you if you don't turn out to be the next top site will likely be what happened to my last site (KinkLive). They were great to their models, we made 60% payout, we got ok traffic, able to sell videos and links easy...they overshot it, and now they'll be owned by Streamate starting July.

Sadly I doubt anyone here will be able to offer you a fullproof plan for doing this. Good luck in whatever you choose to do though. :thumbleft:

It would only effect you if you weren't getting the payout you seek right ? So you would find another webcam site that does I think that's just how the free market works. I never said it would be easy, I just said I know how to cut down on my costs and give you the most profits , or in this case 100 % of the profits. Of course, this is going to take work nothing is ever easy. My whole point of coming here is to find out what it is you look for in a webcam site and I agree the camgirl is the #1 client in reality. Thanks for the good luck I'll need it yes When I launch it shortly in the next week or so I'll post you the links of all the major media outlets that will be covering it.

Nope it's worse than that even.

1. Most don't come with you to the new camsite when they hear you're switching. They either stay with the old camsite, rage quit, or change their name.

2. I have also worked on camsites that offered a good payout, and didn't pay the models. So after tons of advertising about going to a new site, and a month of working there only to not be paid, and have to do tons more advertisement to only not be paid, and have to do it all over again without money and knowing they might not see tippers again.

 

[xstreamium]

You are, word for word, saying EXACTLY the same as every other wannabe camsite owner that I have seen post on all the adult forums over the years. They all failed. one (xpeeeps) struggled along for a bit and even looked like it might make it... then failed too. You have no hope, none whatsoever. You're crazy! The fact that you won't even listen to the people who are your only hope of making money (the cam girls!) just says everything. All your 'traffic' means nothing if they are not interested in paying the girls on your site, which they won't be, since there aren't going to be any.

But anyway, have fun!

So I'm just wondering should there never ever be any new webcam sites ? I mean people have to start somewhere. I'm not following your logic ? Why does it matter if I fail ? Its effects me not you. I've never understood people who are such downers on things . But, you are entitled to your opinion

It sadly does affect us...a lot. We often get people saying "Why not try such&such.com? I hear they listen to their models/have a large payout" etc. The cammers who do cam there will often in turn waste precious time and energy camming there, when they could be on a site that is know to be reliable enough. I've tried and bombed on camsites throughout the years wasting my time to only have 0 traffic, rude camsites that wouldn't respond to cammers, and even camsites that paid their cammers late or not at all. I actually don't even know the number of sites I've signed up for in the past, but I'm sure I have a name for every finger at least.

Basically, it's not that camsites shouldn't try, it's just don't go in balls to the wall expecting it to be easy. Best case scenario for you if you don't turn out to be the next top site will likely be what happened to my last site (KinkLive). They were great to their models, we made 60% payout, we got ok traffic, able to sell videos and links easy...they overshot it, and now they'll be owned by Streamate starting July.

Sadly I doubt anyone here will be able to offer you a fullproof plan for doing this. Good luck in whatever you choose to do though. :thumbleft:

It would only effect you if you weren't getting the payout you seek right ? So you would find another webcam site that does I think that's just how the free market works. I never said it would be easy, I just said I know how to cut down on my costs and give you the most profits , or in this case 100 % of the profits. Of course, this is going to take work nothing is ever easy. My whole point of coming here is to find out what it is you look for in a webcam site and I agree the camgirl is the #1 client in reality. Thanks for the good luck I'll need it yes When I launch it shortly in the next week or so I'll post you the links of all the major media outlets that will be covering it.

Nope it's worse than that even.

1. Most don't come with you to the new camsite when they hear you're switching. They either stay with the old camsite, rage quit, or change their name.

2. I have also worked on camsites that offered a good payout, and didn't pay the models. So after tons of advertising about going to a new site, and a month of working there only to not be paid, and have to do tons more advertisement to only not be paid, and have to do it all over again without money and knowing they might not see tippers again.

In our case we have no option but to pay 100 % as its built into the code we can't touch the money it goes directly the camgirl. There is no middleman in our system and its totally a trust less system. I think that is the big selling point is the payout is totally out of our hands you get it directly we can't stop it as it doesn't go through anyone just directly to you.

I guess I could explain a little bit of the technology behind it. So for example, if a viewer is somehow disconnected they literally get refunded instantly. If the viewer only wants to pay for 45 seconds or 1:47 seconds of video that is easily do this. They pick and choose how much they want to see. Also, to get started streaming as a camgirl you need not fill out any paper work and can get started with just 3 clicks and be up and running. The stream can scale easily at no cost to you as its peer2peer. Just a few things we have in mind.

I'm not really hear to convince anyone one way or the other if it isn't for you then it isn't for you I was more interested in what camgirl think make a good webcam site. The web cam site has already been built and will be in beta in a few weeks so its to late now.