Rules on models creating new accounts?

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

Hi models,

I was just wondering what the rule is for models on creating a second account along side their main?

I've recognised a few models on the homepage of Stripchat (to name one site) that suddenly have the "new" tag on their image. Usually their name is quite similar to their main account but not always the case. Sometimes on their profile they'll have "backup or second" there.

Is that allowed? If so is that fair on alot of long time models if its a advertising advantage?

Hope any models can clarify as a user i'm not totally clued up on the rules of models and if its bad practice or frowned upon!

 

[Ozzie_]

I did not think that models could have more than one streaming account on SC. Although if they left a studio, I can see that the studio may keep the old account open, and of course the model would then have a new independent account, but no longer have access to the old count.

 

[Lexi_Summers]

It is allowed for a model to have one solo account at all times, but can also have a group or couple account. Models frequently delete their solo accounts and create new ones to get the new tag.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

It is allowed for a model to have one solo account at all times, but can also have a group or couple account. Models frequently delete their solo accounts and create new ones to get the new tag.

Seems abit sketchy to allow a solo account and couple accounts. It also seems unfair on established models that you can just delete you're account then start again to get the new status. Hopefully the sites look at this.

I've noticed a few accounts that are solo that some models use them along side their "established" account before deleting the new account. I guess there's always people gaming the system

 

[Lexi_Summers]

Seems abit sketchy to allow a solo account and couple accounts. It also seems unfair on established models that you can just delete you're account then start again to get the new status. Hopefully the sites look at this.

I've noticed a few accounts that are solo that some models use them along side their "established" account before deleting the new account. I guess there's always people gaming the system

Why sketchy? A model can only stream from one account at a time and if they are doing a b/g g/g b/b or group shows they are appealing to one type of customers while on their solo account they appeal to another type. They can't use both at the same time to stream.

Established models and models who continuously delete and make new accounts also attract different types of customers so I don't see a problem in that.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

Why sketchy? A model can only stream from one account at a time and if they are doing a b/g g/g b/b or group shows they are appealing to one type of customers while on their solo account they appeal to another type. They can't use both at the same time to stream.

Established models and models who continuously delete and make new accounts also attract different types of customers so I don't see a problem in that.

What if the model gets banned for breaking tos and then can easily just hop onto their solo or couple account and carry on as if nothing has happened? This seems abit unfair on models grinding to stay in the tos without multiple accounts.

I see models do solo and couple shows on one account and seem to do extremely well. Probably better if they split their accounts into solo and couple. It's probably easier from a user perspective as you follow just one account, one fan club, one twitter ect. Sounds rude but "value for money" instead of having to sign up to their solo content then their couple content ect. Nothing wrong with splitting it but I find having everything under one makes engaging so much easier.

There's a fine line between attract and abuse of customers in this situation especially if they try to change their identity each account. Hence why I'm not that fond of it

 

[Lexi_Summers]

That doesn't happen. Because id is banned and if one id is flagged all ids are flagged on solo, group and couple accounts .. hence they can't make a new account after being banned...

Again, solo and group models attract different kind of crowd so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

When I was streaming solo and b/g on the same account I had 2 completely different crowds for the shows. Maybe 1 or 2 same lurkers that never tipped anyway but tipping members were always 2 different crowds.
Very rarely is there a member who enjoys couple, group and solo shows.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

That doesn't happen. Because id is banned and if one id is flagged all ids are flagged on solo, group and couple accounts .. hence they can't make a new account after being banned...

Again, solo and group models attract different kind of crowd so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

When I was streaming solo and b/g on the same account I had 2 completely different crowds for the shows. Maybe 1 or 2 same lurkers that never tipped anyway but tipping members were always 2 different crowds.
Very rarely is there a member who enjoys couple, group and solo shows.

Ahh I didn't know about Id flagging. I'm not a model so I have little to no experience in that department hence why I asked.

I don't agree on the different type of crowds and members. There is plenty of users who enjoy watching a model on her own and with whoever she includes. For example I join a certain model who originally started solo and now has her partner join in. The same users have stayed and enjoy the different dynamic, infact shes never been busier. In her words she said " its helped her massively in the UK category as she's not just sitting there doing the same thing over and over and in turn her usual guys are enjoying more content".

Sorry you had two different types of crowd join you but from my experience so far there's alot more traffic to solo and couple content than separate accounts!

 

[Lexi_Summers]

Ahh I didn't know about Id flagging. I'm not a model so I have little to no experience in that department hence why I asked.

I don't agree on the different type of crowds and members. There is plenty of users who enjoy watching a model on her own and with whoever she includes. For example I join a certain model who originally started solo and now has her partner join in. The same users have stayed and enjoy the different dynamic, infact shes never been busier. In her words she said " its helped her massively in the UK category as she's not just sitting there doing the same thing over and over and in turn her usual guys are enjoying more content".

Sorry you had two different types of crowd join you but from my experience so far there's alot more traffic to solo and couple content than separate accounts!

Right so you're not a model but you're forming an opinion about how models work without even knowing the behind the scenes. Cool.

You don't have to agree. You're talking about 1 model from a member perspective. I'll leave it at that.

And what is the sorry for again? I did amazing with two different types of crowds. In fact I did so well I haven't really worked since August last year and I've still got leftover cash that was quite patronising and I don't appreciate it.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

Right so you're not a model but you're forming an opinion about how models work without even knowing the behind the scenes. Cool.

You don't have to agree. You're talking about 1 model from a member perspective. I'll leave it at that.

And what is the sorry for again? I did amazing with two different types of crowds. In fact I did so well I haven't really worked since August last year and I've still got leftover cash that was quite patronising and I don't appreciate it.

Take a breath Lexi I'm just trying to engage in conversation! No I don't know how the admin side of being a model works, hence why I'm asking as not wanting to be a model myself it's not something I'm very clued up on.

I can have an opinion though as why I don't believe it's a very good system in place. Doesn't matter if you agree, I just wanted to know if multiple accounts was allowed or it was breaking tos or just bad practice.

Yes I don't have to agree it's a conversation after all. The one model was just an example as in my opinion and hers since she's started couple shows, shes probably one of the top performers in the UK category on her site atm.

I'm sorry again I misread thinking you had a bad experience with two types of shows it wasn't patronising at all. Good for you not having to work for a good couple of months. Not sure why that needed to be shared though or about how much cash you have. I'm sure you know the saying that goes with doing that but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Hope you're shows stay amazing if you ever return to camming!

 

[Lexi_Summers]

Take a breath Lexi I'm just trying to engage in conversation! No I don't know how the admin side of being a model works, hence why I'm asking as not wanting to be a model myself it's not something I'm very clued up on.

I can have an opinion though as why I don't believe it's a very good system in place. Doesn't matter if you agree, I just wanted to know if multiple accounts was allowed or it was breaking tos or just bad practice.

Yes I don't have to agree it's a conversation after all. The one model was just an example as in my opinion and hers since she's started couple shows, shes probably one of the top performers in the UK category on her site atm.

I'm sorry again I misread thinking you had a bad experience with two types of shows it wasn't patronising at all. Good for you not having to work for a good couple of months. Not sure why that needed to be shared though or about how much cash you have. I'm sure you know the saying that goes with doing that but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Hope you're shows stay amazing if you ever return to camming!

You're one of them then. Cool.

 

[AmberCutie]

I don't agree on the different type of crowds and members. There is plenty of users who enjoy watching a model on her own and with whoever she includes.

I think this may be the triggering thing here. The different types of crowds/members isn't an opinion, it's how things work. Just because you as a member don't fit into the description doesn't mean it isn't a thing. So I think that's why you're getting some flak on that.

Since you made your other thread about how topics can get so tense/toxic/whathaveyou, I figured I'd drop in with the friendliest explanation that I could to help you understand.

 

[Lexi_Summers]

I'm sorry again I misread thinking you had a bad experience with two types of shows it wasn't patronising at all. Good for you not having to work for a good couple of months. Not sure why that needed to be shared though or about how much cash you have. I'm sure you know the saying that goes with doing that but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Hope you're shows stay amazing if you ever return to camming!

I didn't say how much cash I have though did I. I shared that because you said you're sorry I had two different crowds so that was me telling you it wasn't a bad thing. Again, patronising.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

You're one of them then. Cool.

Someone who can have a conversation without resorting to insulting or being offended? Yeah I guess!

I didn't say how much cash I have though did I. I shared that because you said you're sorry I had two different crowds so that was me telling you it wasn't a bad thing. Again, patronising.

No but usually people don't mention money unless they don't have enough or they have too much. I just found it strange why it had to be brought up as it wasn't anything to do with the topic at hand.

Again I misread the crowd thing. I assumed it was bad as you never said it was good!

 

[Lexi_Summers]

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

The different types of crowds/members isn't an opinion, it's how things work. Just because you as a member don't fit into the description doesn't mean it isn't a thing.

It is my opinion in the context of what lexi was saying. Solo and group can attract the same crowd not just one or the other which lexi was implying. Sure there is people who like one or the other but I'm sure there is the same if not more than like both!

Since you made your other thread about how topics can get so tense/toxic/whathaveyou, I figured I'd drop in with the friendliest explanation that I could to help you understand

Thanks Amber really helping prove my point.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

Bad day at the office?

 

[Vixxen81]

I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I'm not going to because that's who I am.

As a viewer, your input can be helpful, however, at the end of the day it is still what you want to see, not what everyone wants to see. A lot of the models on this forum have at least a decade of experience, we've tried all of things we were comfortable with and what works best for us.

Most of my viewers would have a cow if I suddenly did b/g content as that is not something they have ever expressed a desire to see me do and most of them have no idea I'm married. I would definitely open a second account to do that if I wanted to go that way.

 

[Ozzie_]

Bad day at the office?

Mate.. don't be a dick.

I kinda get what you were saying (I do not agree with any of it btw) but the way you have expressed your thoughts to a very experienced model is so condescending that you sound like a 100% cockwomble.

You may be used to just spraying every thought that comes into your head out via the keyboard unchecked / uncensored, but around here where (generally the conversations are intelligent and well thought out) a bit of pre-hitting-the-send-button editing is advisable.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

I probably should just keep my mouth shut, but I'm not going to because that's who I am.

As a viewer, your input can be helpful, however, at the end of the day it is still what you want to see, not what everyone wants to see. A lot of the models on this forum have at least a decade of experience, we've tried all of things we were comfortable with and what works best for us.

Most of my viewers would have a cow if I suddenly did b/g content as that is not something they have ever expressed a desire to see me do and most of them have no idea I'm married. I would definitely open a second account to do that if I wanted to go that way.

I welcome your input too as this is actually helpful! Don't let anyone silence you! Thank you

Yeah I understand you're point but what I'm thinking is that I'm probably not the only person with this viewpoint. I'm not forcing models to change, just that I saw the same models on multiple accounts with the new tag. I thought it was weird!

Perhaps your viewers would actually enjoy that content? Without revealing too much of your personal life ask them? Poll them? You could be surprised how much encouragement you may get plus the new viewers who enjoy couple content. Same with the different accounts if it's something you're comfortable with!

 

[Ozzie_]

It is my opinion in the context of what lexi was saying. Solo and group can attract the same crowd not just one or the other which lexi was implying. Sure there is people who like one or the other but I'm sure there is the same if not more than like both!

Christ on a bike and fuck me sideways! I missed this.

Geez stop!!! Now you are explaining camming demographics to models who have been doing this job for a very long while?

 

[Vixxen81]

I welcome your input too as this is actually helpful! Don't let anyone silence you! Thank you

Yeah I understand you're point but what I'm thinking is that I'm probably not the only person with this viewpoint. I'm not forcing models to change, just that I saw the same models on multiple accounts with the new tag. I thought it was weird!

Perhaps your viewers would actually enjoy that content? Without revealing too much of your personal life ask them? Poll them? You could be surprised how much encouragement you may get plus the new viewers who enjoy couple content. Same with the different accounts if it's something you're comfortable with!

Dude you are way out of line here. I'm not asking my viewers anything. I have crafted my shows to suit me, viewers follow or they don't. It's that simple.

Oh and guess how this conversation goes. "It's your room, your rules, your show." The only people asking for things not on the menu are people who were never going to pay for them to begin with even if it is on the menu.

 

[Amazingtimesarecoming]

Mate.. don't be a dick.

I kinda get what you were saying (I do not agree with any of it btw) but the way you have expressed your thoughts to a very experienced model is so condescending that you sound like a 100% cockwomble.

You may be used to just spraying every thought that comes into your head out via the keyboard unchecked / uncensored, but around here where (generally the conversations are intelligent and well thought out) a bit of pre-hitting-the-send-button editing is advisable.

Being a dick is not having a conversation and just being childish with gifs. I apologised twice for a conversation that was completely irrelevant to my topic. Pretty crap joke I hold my hands up too.

That's the joys of opinions you don't have to agree but a forum is a place to talk about it without having to insult each other. You know like calling someone a cockwomble? It just proves my point that I haven't targeted or insulted anyone yet the name calling has started because you don't agree with my views.

Again I asked a genuine question that I needed a model to answer which is the point of this subforum?

I have to disagree with certain questions being intelligent as they don't seem to understand the topic at hand. I do agree though that the edit button could be used by a few members on this site.

 

[Lexi_Summers]

Bad day at the office?

You're not funny.

You asked something in an Ask-a-model section and when a model answered you and you didn't like the answer, you went into "I'm kind and sweet but..." patronising mode and like I said I do not appreciate that.

My comment about two different crowds is valid and members who usually enjoy solo content do not want to see and talk to a guy in a show interacting with the members and their favorite model being fucked by some rando (to them). This is the reason model can and do have two separate accounts. Also worth mentioning is that watching porn clips of porn stars doing couple and group content is a completely different thing than actually interacting with a couple on cam sites.


You mentioned abuse of users which is totally ridiculous and the members that fall for any kind of scams shouldn't be on cam sites in the first place. It's not models responsibility to keep members safe and sound - this is a fantasy world and yes, models will adjust their shows according to what crowd they have. Also, sorry to break it to you, but 99.99% of models fake everything. If you really think your favorite model is a 25 year old Jessica Jones from Rhode Island that went to private school on that and that street, you're most likely...you guessed it, wrong.


After that, you admitted you have no idea how things work yet you still formed an opinion about how things should or shouldn't work.

Then you went on to being patronising, saying you're sorry I had two different crowds - no where did I say that was a bad or a good thing, you yourself admitted you just assumed, and I'm not quite sure where that assumption that it was bad came from since there's nothing I said to indicate so and give you a base to form an assumption on.


Then when I told you it wasn't a bad thing in a form of saying I did extremely well that way, you went on to being even more patronising, and without typing it out, said something really rude.

Another thing, you told me to take a breath. I don't see why that was necessary and again you showed condescending behaviour towards me, when I was simply answering you. I don't have time to write lengthy explanations to people who already made it clear they don't want to hear it.

You also tried to gaslight me saying my answer about how well I did with two different crowds didn't have anything to do with the topic at hand, when you were the one saying you're sorry it was a bad thing.


And then you go on to say in another thread that it seems like the users aren't the problem on this forum. This is what I meant when I said you're one of them then. One of the ones who ask, and then when they dont like the answers, they turn into.. this.

 

[Ozzie_]

That's the joys of opinions you don't have to agree but a forum is a place to talk about it without having to insult each other. You know like calling someone a cockwomble? It just proves my point that I haven't targeted or insulted anyone yet the name calling has started because you don't agree with my views.

Well technically I said you sounded like one, not that you are one but I get your point. I apologise.

Again I asked a genuine question that I needed a model to answer which is the point of this subforum?

Yes indeed it is, but continuing to push your contrary opinion in the face of more experienced people's historical experienced real world data, is well.. argumentative at best, ignorant or condescending at worst. Sure, ask your questions, but if you do not agree with what a more qualified person has to say, just take it on board, maybe even talk it as a chance to grow a little and reassess your own opinion don't tell them you do not agree. In that scenario your opinion, I am sorry to say, is irrelevant.

 

[AmberCutie]

It is my opinion in the context of what lexi was saying. Solo and group can attract the same crowd not just one or the other which lexi was implying. Sure there is people who like one or the other but I'm sure there is the same if not more than like both!

Thanks Amber really helping prove my point.

Unfortunately you've also proven the opposite, since you still felt the need to correct me. And therein lies the problem and with that you've fulfilled the prophecy.

In order to have a more peaceful beginning to April, I do believe it's best you're relocated like an unwelcomed spider next to the toilet.

 

[AmberCutie]

Christ on a bike and fuck me sideways! I missed this.

Geez stop!!! Now you are explaining camming demographics to models who have been doing this job for a very long while?

Yeah, we're done.

As noted recently, my patience for idiots at this forum has grown too thin.

 

[Lexi_Summers]

Again I asked a genuine question that I needed a model to answer

I have to disagree with certain questions being intelligent as they don't seem to understand the topic at hand. I do agree though that the edit button could be used by a few members on this site.

A model did answer. Figure that.

So....you're calling me stupid now too or am I misreading something?

 

[Ozzie_]

Yeah, we're done.

As noted recently, my patience for idiots at this forum has grown too thin.

I will consider myself put on notice

 

[AmberCutie]

I will consider myself put on notice

lol I promise if you ever become part of the problem you will know