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missmeowmixx

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BUMP, this is reallyREALLY important guys. Those of you who live in the USA please add your names to any petition you can find against SOPA and inundate your reps with phonecalls, if you want the internet to stay awesome.

http://pccc.me/trvx5D

^petitiony.

also checkout americancensorship.org

censorship is a huge issue to me. WHO ARE YOU to decide what is "okay" and "not okay" to talk about online? fuck you.
 
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Signed.

Since this is the "internet age" and there's tons of many other petitions like this, I highly doubt this bullshit bill will pass. But still, every signature helps. It took me less than 20 secs. to sign this, so everyone else..... SIGN THIS SHIT!
 
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I find it quite ironic that in a community full of content producers (models), there is so much outrage towards proposed legislation which is designed to stop piracy of Intellectual Property (IP). Especially ironic since there are numerous threads here discussing and bemoaning the fact that piracy occurs all too often.

That being said: yes, the bill (as written) is overly vague, too broadly written, and basically a mess. And it's doubtful that it will make it out of committee. If you are not aware of the Congressional process, bills have to go through committee after committee for talks and compromise. This is the first place where things get watered down. Then, if it makes it out of the last committee, it gets voted on by the full House. Then, if the Senate's companion/competing bill made it through a similar Senate process, a joint House/Senate committee will try to hash out compromises and the bill(s) will get watered down even more. In the event that the joint committee is successful, the single, unified bill is sent back to both houses for a final vote. If passed, it is sent to the President for the signing/veto process.

My point is: this process will take a long time, nothing will happen overnight.

One thing I left out: that little thing called the 1st ammendment. One of the foremost guardians of the 1st ammendment is the ACLU. There have been a few stories/blogs from them, but for this organization they have been quiet. Why? 2 reasons: #1 they know the probability of a unified bill being presented to the President is very slim; and #2 they are putting all their resources into a possible court fight to the SCOTUS. But even as reactionary as the Roberts Court has been, the chances are very slim that they will go against the 200+ years of custom and precedent where we have enjoyed the right of "Free Speech".

Everyone's outrage is justified. So what do we do?

A. Register to vote (apologies to those who are registered)

B. Get educated (sorry, reddit and the Daily Show do not count)

C. Go out and actually vote, and try to pick the best candidate for the issues that concern you the most

D. We all know that Congress has their collectives heads up their asses. This SOPA (and related bills) are result of forceful and intense lobbying. Primarily from the MPAA & RIAA. Throw your support towards stronger Anti-Lobbying Bills.

E. Support the ACLU, especially on this issue. Sign their petition (the strength in numbers thing). Donate a few tokens, if you have some to spare.

Has anyone inquired where Leo stands on this? It might carry more weight for models to send HIM a petition and let him get engaged in this issue.

There's a lot more to say, but this has already turned into a tl;dr.
 

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Thank you so much for that post schlmoe :mrgreen: you make loads of excellent points.

In other good news on this, the committee that was in session reviewing SOPA two days ago adjourned for the year without voting nor setting a vote date. Huzzah!!

As for us as content producers being against it, the fact that it would make it More illegal for people to steal and post our work, is great. But, i think they would just keep doing it and host it offshore. the law doesn't stretch to sites hosted in asia or anywhere else, so they'd just host it across a border to avoid the felony.

So in the end I don't think it would help that much anyways..

"Perhaps the most dangerous aspect of the bill is that the conduct it would criminalize is so poorly defined. While on its face the bill seems to attempt to distinguish between commercial and non-commercial conduct, purportedly criminalizing the former and permitting the latter, in actuality the bill not only fails to accomplish this but, because of its lack of concrete definitions, it potentially criminalizes conduct that is currently permitted under the law."


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this is what worries me. it seems like just another bill giving government agencies and phone companies etc. the ability to shut up and delete whatever THEY think needs to get shut up and deleted. sure it's under the ruse of being 'illegal activity' or 'copyrighted' when in reality, it's Wikileaks, or independent media telling people what "they're not supposed to know." it could be any sort of information that goes against the interests of those lobbying the government. The internet's pretty much the only place that stuff can happen, since those same companies have their thumb on the largest media providers.

that's my :twocents-02cents: --
 

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Hehe... nothing new for some countries, though it isn't necessarily "in law" but through ISP's acting on what they perceive to be public concerns using an otherwise unanswerable body to decide what we can, and cannot, view.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 57010.html

In the UK several picture hosting sites are blocked (not imageshack, but other alternative image hosts).
I can only assume due to various suspect images being hosted and reported - potentially out of millions of images a few dozen, maybe a hundred, were "illegal" (meaning child porn - but how many images is likely something you cannot find out). However, they've blocked entire domains... so no images may load (irrespective of content) from certain hosts to UK viewers. Nothing to be done about it - although using a VPN i can view said images and have yet to see anything illegal. Always makes me worry slightly whether my IP is being registered as trying to access a "blocked site" :whistle:

So whether it's passed into law may be mute, there's probably something already existing which the ISP's sign to - just that your govt wants some control over it instead :D
 

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Zoomer said:
So whether it's passed into law may be mute, there's probably something already existing which the ISP's sign to - just that your govt wants some control over it instead :D

moot
 

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Keithy said:
Zoomer said:
So whether it's passed into law may be mute, there's probably something already existing which the ISP's sign to - just that your govt wants some control over it instead :D

moot

Mute? Moot? NO, it's a moo point... :-D

 
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Keithy said:
Zoomer said:
So whether it's passed into law may be mute, there's probably something already existing which the ISP's sign to - just that your govt wants some control over it instead :D

moot

Is always strange, a word I've used a hundred times correctly - get it wrong every now and then :D But tar muchly, I hadn't even noticed :eek:
 

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Damn censorship...I wasn't able to vote last election because I was too young but I'm old enough now and I fully intend on getting my dad, grandpa and roommate to teach me all this crap so I can make an educated vote. I've been trying to keep up with all of this and some of the sheer stupidity revolving around it just makes my head spin. I'm halfway convinced to pack up and move to boonies of Mexico or something.
 

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Oh shi-
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-57345342-245/bittorrent-downloads-linked-to-riaa-dhs-ip-addresses/

Six RIAA IP addresses were linked to downloads of music by Jay-Z ("American Gangster") and Kanye West ("My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy"), as well as the first five seasons of "Dexter," a "Law and Order SVU" episode and tools for converting audio and tagging MP3 files, according to TorrentFreak .
But RIAA spokesman Jonathan Lamy disputed the report. "This is inaccurate," he said in a statement provided to CNET via e-mail. "We checked the block of IP addresses allocated to RIAA staff to access the Internet and no RIAA employee was responsible for this alleged use of bittorrent."
Asked for comment on that, the TorrentFreak blogger who posted the item, who goes by the alias "Ernesto," told CNET that he stands by the report and provided CNET with six IP addresses that were within the range of IP addresses listed for RIAA on the American Registry for Internet Numbers Whois site . They all came up with material that had been downloaded when a search is conducted on YouHaveDownloaded.com.
 
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I'm not up to speed with all the intricacies of this subject, but signing internet petitions are about as useful as teats on boar hog.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp

You're WAY better off contacting your representative individually, even if it's via a previously prepared form letter with your address on it.
 

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Bocefish said:
I'm not up to speed with all the intricacies of this subject, but signing internet petitions are about as useful as teats on boar hog.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp

You're WAY better off contacting your representative individually, even if it's via a previously prepared form letter with your address on it.

That's what I've always figured about online petitions. Sure, I'll sign one occasionally, but I never really think it will do much. I agree that online petition sites would do much better if you just entered your zip code and they just provided the number and address to your representative and gave you a script to go off what to say when you call or prepare a letter for you to print out, sign, and mail or even hand copy and send.

Thankfully, a lot of places actually do offer that, but most e-petitions are pretty much just "type your name here".
 

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I don't want to get into a political debate here. I just want to say my piece and I am done and this is the only thing I am saying and then I am not posting in this thread any longer. SOPA, if passed, will seriously take years to take into effect. Yes, I know they are holding the important meeting today (or is it next Wednesday?) Yes, it would be ideal because it may somehow force people into paying for porn memberships again. It would be great if they cracked down on MFC for underagers being able to see girls sticking shit up their twat in public chat. But it will effect Streamate models to a degree because they are a Non-US company, and if they move to the US they will face problems because they get maaaaajor tax breaks being based in Cyrpus. Add on to the HD bandwith costs sites are experiencing nowadays. . .
 
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