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(i got life time banned by a model last week for explaining this to her)
There's a scenario I'd love to know more about...
 
Lol @ "models aren't entitled to my tokens, but I'm entitled to be able to watch her for free."

Come on, now. You do realize that MFC only uses that marketing method to take your tokens, right? It has nothing to do with having a moral interest in the availability of free porn.
 
I have one rule for myself when it comes to banning members.
If their presence makes me unhappy or uncomfortable, I ban them.

"Innocent" "banned for no reason" these words never actually work unless it was a legit accident or system glitch. If you were banned it was for a reason, even if you don't like it.
A model doesn't like you... go find someone who does.
 
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I guess I have a thick skin and I can see both sides of the issue. Sometimes I go into a models room and do not tip or talk and just want to hear the vibes of the room and listen to the model chat with other members while I am alt tabbed, that has gotten me banned before. I understand a models stance on this and I hold nothing against them. I even go back in after the six hour ban sometimes and tip. I just do not let the site get on my nerves if I get banned it isn't for anything other than maybe being alt tabbed too long or just not being in the mood to talk or tip because I haven't gotten to know that particular model on the level to where I personally do not want to tip at that point. Also, for those of you out there I found this is a good tactic from that type of banning anyways, if I want to get to know a model or go in without participating in the room etc, then I just guest the room and then go in on my premium account when I am ready to tip, talk etc, it all depends on how the model runs her room, because after all it her room and I never worry about how they decide to run their work or their room, I respect their choices and have to remind myself I am not the one trying to run a possible room of anywhere to 100 to 1000 members at a time etc. I just do not take it personal I guess it what I am saying, and have found ways around getting my premium banned until I am ready to tip or talk in the room. That is why I like the guest feature so much. I can see from a models point of view someone sitting there for an hour with tokens and not saying anything but I can also see it from the point of the member as well if they are a newbie that may be shy and doesnt know the model well etc. So for me anyways, I guest mode it until I am ready talk and tip a new model I come across, so she doesnt see a freeloader by name with a high token count and not talking in her room, I do not want to come across as being rude, and the anon thing and then switching over to my premium things has worked out really well for me, I even admit to them I have been watching as a guest and I want to talk and participate in the room now and I have even gotten pms telling me thank you for getting to know the room but not just sitting there on my premium name doing nothing while I was getting to know it. Some people guest to get to know rooms and to not bring bans on themselves for shyness noobness etc, others guests because they are just freeloaders, everything has its ups and downs I suppose and in the end I just need to respect the persons room I am in and remember that I need to do whatever makes them comfortable because, hey, I am there to watch them, not the other way around. ;)
 
When I freeload, I just do it from the lounge.
That is where OP should have shared this tale of woe. The lounge. Not here at ACF.

In the lounge, surrounded by his like-minded brethren, he could have mourned over this tragedy and received consolations and condolences from all quarters. Instead he came here, and got nothing but a smack-down for his troubles.

Go tell it in the lounge, pinknerds. I will be waiting for you there with open arms.
 
That is where OP should have shared this tale of woe. The lounge. Not here at ACF.

In the lounge, surrounded by his like-minded brethren, he could have mourned over this tragedy and received consolations and condolences from all quarters. Instead he came here, and got nothing but a smack-down for his troubles.

Go tell it in the lounge, pinknerds. I will be waiting for you there with open arms.

Why not get both perspectives? The other perspective is easily found. Now did I think I would get railroaded pretty much. I even said it in the original topic. Be it models sticking together or wk's looking for likes.It surely paints the group in a unfavorable light. So you really don't feel so bad when they get capped or end up on a porn site.

Songbird she was booting me out of the basics numerous times. Who knows maybe she would ban all the basic members. Maybe she was just singling me out. It's just a bad look blocking the basic chat. If you are being respectful and not asking for anything I don't see the harm. It should add to the room dynamic. Plenty of times premium guys are not talking with the models. So it's really only talking to the guy because he pays you to do so. What type of guy needs to pay a girl so she will actually talk to him? At least go to the strip club or get a escort and get laid. Or if you want to get off on that girl that bad just hit google.
 
Songbird she was booting me out of the basics numerous times. Who knows maybe she would ban all the basic members. Maybe she was just singling me out. It's just a bad look blocking the basic chat. If you are being respectful and not asking for anything I don't see the harm. It should add to the room dynamic.
Pretty sure most models turn off chat for basics on MFC, am I missing something?
 
Pretty sure most models turn off chat for basics on MFC, am I missing something?
Most models turn off Basic's chat because basics have nothing to lose and are 10000% more likely to say things that upset, irritate, anger or harm the model. At least 0/20s have invested a twenty and may not want their username banned. The only thing that separates basics and guests is an email address.

Why not get both perspectives? The other perspective is easily found. Now did I think I would get railroaded pretty much. I even said it in the original topic. Be it models sticking together or wk's looking for likes.It surely paints the group in a unfavorable light. So you really don't feel so bad when they get capped or end up on a porn site.
I feel the beginning of the end approaching. It doesn't take a model lovefest bandwagon or a white knight to point out your ignorance on the matter. And the fact that you sling such accusations around, then toss in your last line just show that you don't really "like" cam girls, you just use them when and how it's convenient for you. Which is FINE but you won't find a whollatta like-minded folks on this forum.

Best change the subject if you enjoy hanging out here.
 
Why not get both perspectives? The other perspective is easily found. Now did I think I would get railroaded pretty much. I even said it in the original topic. Be it models sticking together or wk's looking for likes.It surely paints the group in a unfavorable light. So you really don't feel so bad when they get capped or end up on a porn site.

Songbird she was booting me out of the basics numerous times. Who knows maybe she would ban all the basic members. Maybe she was just singling me out. It's just a bad look blocking the basic chat. If you are being respectful and not asking for anything I don't see the harm. It should add to the room dynamic. Plenty of times premium guys are not talking with the models. So it's really only talking to the guy because he pays you to do so. What type of guy needs to pay a girl so she will actually talk to him? At least go to the strip club or get a escort and get laid. Or if you want to get off on that girl that bad just hit google.
So I see you "bad troll attempt" me but you didn't answer my question.

Are you so entitled and narcissistic that you believe a movie theater should let you in for free simply because they have empty seats?
 
What type of guy needs to pay a girl so she will actually talk to him?
One who is not a deadbeat freeloading mooch.

You mention escorts and strip clubs. This is the same business. Want to be part of it, then come up with some green.

Have you thought about joining a church social group or something?
 
I feel the beginning of the end approaching. It doesn't take a model lovefest bandwagon or a white knight to point out your ignorance on the matter. And the fact that you sling such accusations around, then toss in your last line just show that you don't really "like" cam girls, you just use them when and how it's convenient for you. Which is FINE but you won't find a whollatta like-minded folks on this forum.

Best change the subject if you enjoy hanging out here.

I'm sorry everyone. My intention was not to be banned or upset anyone when I made the original topic. I was venting about what happened with the model and myself and everything went horribly downhill from that point. I expected some good and some bad when I posted the original topic. But I did not expect so much backlash. At this point things have spiraled so far out of control. My continued posting in the thread is not beneficial. I don't hate cam girls. I apologize for saying what I did in the last sentence as it was in poor taste. If anyone wants to talk to me privately about anything in the thread you are welcome to PM me. Once again i'm sorry. :(
 
The only thing that separates basics and guests is an email address.
Not true. Most basics are actual humans while half of the guests are virtual bot creations. The other night, a romanian model had like 6 premium and basics along with 350 guests in her room. I'm mean really.... do they have to be so excessive and obvious with this stuff? And basics are more like 0/20's than guests as we can be banned and recognized when we enter room. Where we are promptly banned.
It would be an interesting ladder graphic to see the seperation between the tiers of MFC viewers. An email between guest and basic... $20 between basic and 0/20 etc... then you have the team members and room helpers. It's like a fuckfest meltingpot.

One who is not a deadbeat freeloading mooch.
People that toss around insults like this.... I wonder how you survive in life or how cold your world is. Wow. The anger and frustration attached to this entire business scares me at times. I don't think I could handle the abuse of being a model or premium member.

I'm sorry everyone
Hey! i enjoyed this story and I thank you for sharing. Putting yourself out there in this forum is like facing wolves while wearing a Lady-Gaga meat suit. They're hungry for blood and you gotta know it wasn't going to turn out well. Traditional customer service ideas don't apply in MFC, as I'm sure you've figured out.

I totally relate to your story and I think as viewers we've all had similar experiences. The golden rule is that the guy with the gold makes the rules so... I'd go find a better place to drop your money. Like a robot sex doll modelled to look like your favorite model.

That's what I'd do anyway.
 
People that toss around insults like this.... I wonder how you survive in life or how cold your world is.
He had no problem insulting those who show appreciation by tipping. I merely returned the favor.

How I manage to survive in my dark, cold, scary little corner of the universe is a topic for another day.
 
Why not get both perspectives? The other perspective is easily found. Now did I think I would get railroaded pretty much. I even said it in the original topic. Be it models sticking together or wk's looking for likes.It surely paints the group in a unfavorable light. So you really don't feel so bad when they get capped or end up on a porn site.

Songbird she was booting me out of the basics numerous times. Who knows maybe she would ban all the basic members. Maybe she was just singling me out. It's just a bad look blocking the basic chat. If you are being respectful and not asking for anything I don't see the harm. It should add to the room dynamic. Plenty of times premium guys are not talking with the models. So it's really only talking to the guy because he pays you to do so. What type of guy needs to pay a girl so she will actually talk to him? At least go to the strip club or get a escort and get laid. Or if you want to get off on that girl that bad just hit google.


Wow, I return from my mini Seinfeld marathon to find a rant on here about me? BOO-fucking-HOO, dude. I don't even cam on MFC anymore, and you're on here bitching about being "booted" (I think you mean muted) from my room? LMAO. Guess what? If basics don't like being muted, then they need to upgrade, or go to a different room where they're unmuted. Lots of MFC models mute basics AND guests, and we don't need to explain our reasons for doing so. If that hurts your little feelings, too bad. Get over yourself. And out of curiosity, does your screen name begin with 'juv'?

No, a "bad look" is members joining a forum just to bitch about models, because your entitled, freeloading ass is all butthurt about not getting what you want. Now run along to The Lounge and bitch to the other guys about how you've been banned from multiple rooms, and have no idea why. LOL...

To quote Major Payne...You get no sympathy from me. You want sympathy? You look in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis'.
 
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Putting yourself out there in this forum is like facing wolves while wearing a Lady-Gaga meat suit. They're hungry for blood and you gotta knowit wasn't going to turn out well.

I always wonder why anyone would enjoy a forum if you really feel that's how it is?

Really sometimes people are a little harsh but I think Amber does a really good job of reining us in when we're being jerks while at the same time, it's a forum for adults. If you say something rude/dumb/etc people will tel you but that's life, no? For every snarky post on here (even in this thread), there are multiple non-snarky explanatory ones. Disagreeing, even if everyone's doing it, doesn't have to be seen as a negative thing. Just my two cents though.
 
Wow, I return from my mini Seinfeld marathon to find a rant on here about me? BOO-fucking-HOO, dude. I don't even cam on MFC anymore, and you're on here bitching about being "booted" (I think you mean muted) from my room? LMAO. Guess what? If basics don't like being muted, then they need to upgrade, or go to a different room where they're unmuted. Lots of MFC models mute basics AND guests, and we don't need to explain our reasons for doing so. If that hurts your little feelings, too bad. Get over yourself. And out of curiosity, does your screen name begin with 'juv'?

No, a "bad look" is members joining a forum just to bitch about models, because your entitled, freeloading ass is all butthurt about not getting what you want. Now run along to The Lounge and bitch to the other guys about how you've been banned from multiple rooms, and have no idea why. LOL...

To quote Major Payne...You get no sympathy from me. You want sympathy? You look in the dictionary between 'shit' and 'syphilis'.
Uh, he was responding to you, not talking about you. Just to clear that up. You are not the model that blocked banned or muted him in the OP.
 
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Uh, he was responding to you, not talking about you. Just to clear that up. You are not the model that blocked banned or muted him in the OP.

D'oh! *facepalm* Thank you, Amber. Sorry for the misunderstanding, pinknerds! Too late to edit/delete my post.
 
I always wonder why anyone would enjoy a forum if you really feel that's how it is?

Really sometimes people are a little harsh but I think Amber does a really good job of reining us in when we're being jerks while at the same time, it's a forum for adults. If you say something rude/dumb/etc people will tel you but that's life, no? For every snarky post on here (even in this thread), there are multiple non-snarky explanatory ones. Disagreeing, even if everyone's doing it, doesn't have to be seen as a negative thing. Just my two cents though.
I would agree that this thread really isn't much of a wolves den scenario. In fact, the harshest lines thrown are from a member, not from a model. I feel like the rest of us were just pointing out errors in judgment and errors in the way things work on a cam site.

The OP has been a member for some years here, though inactive for a long while. He apologized to me and to everyone in the thread, so let's give the benefit of the doubt and assume something of worth was taken from the interactions in this thread.
 
Not true. Most basics are actual humans while half of the guests are virtual bot creations. The other night, a romanian model had like 6 premium and basics along with 350 guests in her room. I'm mean really.... do they have to be so excessive and obvious with this stuff? And basics are more like 0/20's than guests as we can be banned and recognized when we enter room. Where we are promptly banned.
It would be an interesting ladder graphic to see the seperation between the tiers of MFC viewers. An email between guest and basic... $20 between basic and 0/20 etc... then you have the team members and room helpers. It's like a fuckfest meltingpot.


People that toss around insults like this.... I wonder how you survive in life or how cold your world is. Wow. The anger and frustration attached to this entire business scares me at times. I don't think I could handle the abuse of being a model or premium member.


Hey! i enjoyed this story and I thank you for sharing. Putting yourself out there in this forum is like facing wolves while wearing a Lady-Gaga meat suit. They're hungry for blood and you gotta know it wasn't going to turn out well. Traditional customer service ideas don't apply in MFC, as I'm sure you've figured out.

I totally relate to your story and I think as viewers we've all had similar experiences. The golden rule is that the guy with the gold makes the rules so... I'd go find a better place to drop your money. Like a robot sex doll modelled to look like your favorite model.

That's what I'd do anyway.

Ahem....did someone say doll?
 
Not true. Most basics are actual humans while half of the guests are virtual bot creations. The other night, a romanian model had like 6 premium and basics along with 350 guests in her room. I'm mean really.... do they have to be so excessive and obvious with this stuff? And basics are more like 0/20's than guests as we can be banned and recognized when we enter room. Where we are promptly banned.
It would be an interesting ladder graphic to see the seperation between the tiers of MFC viewers. An email between guest and basic... $20 between basic and 0/20 etc... then you have the team members and room helpers. It's like a fuckfest meltingpot.


People that toss around insults like this.... I wonder how you survive in life or how cold your world is. Wow. The anger and frustration attached to this entire business scares me at times. I don't think I could handle the abuse of being a model or premium member.


Hey! i enjoyed this story and I thank you for sharing. Putting yourself out there in this forum is like facing wolves while wearing a Lady-Gaga meat suit. They're hungry for blood and you gotta know it wasn't going to turn out well. Traditional customer service ideas don't apply in MFC, as I'm sure you've figured out.

I totally relate to your story and I think as viewers we've all had similar experiences. The golden rule is that the guy with the gold makes the rules so... I'd go find a better place to drop your money. Like a robot sex doll modelled to look like your favorite model.

That's what I'd do anyway.

I find it interesting that y'all would be shocked at a lack of sympathy in a forum frequented by models, the very people who y'all refuse to support. To models basics are basically moot, until converted, and if you've been a basic for more than a year your chances of conversion are extremely slim. Perhaps y'all should unionize and start a forum for basics and non tippers and share your woes there, or is that prohibitively expensive as well?
 
This thread makes me happy I don't cam on MFC anymore. Seriously, there are other options out there! Find something that makes you happy, pleaseeeeee ~
 
Perhaps y'all should unionize and start a forum for basics and non tippers and share your woes there, or is that prohibitively expensive as well?
Could get basicsforjustice.com registered and shared hosting at Namecheap for right around $20. I wouldn't count on it being up after renewal time rolls around though.
 
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