You, uh, you're not too familiar with Tolkien, are you?sxycherrypie said:A new movie of Lord of the rings is coming out? That's what it looks like,.
Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?lordmagellan said:You, uh, you're not too familiar with Tolkien, are you?sxycherrypie said:A new movie of Lord of the rings is coming out? That's what it looks like,.
The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
I want to see this so god damn bad right now!!!Jupiter551 said:The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
This was my favorite of the set because for whatever reason, I really liked Bilbo. It was interesting to find out how the story began. The first time I read the book I was too young and it went so far over my head. Then my dad decided to read it to my siblings and I everytime he was home from deployment. His translation from orks to real guns was so cool! Lol. I can't wait for it to come to theaters! My family is planning on going to see it together if my brother is home from basic.Jupiter551 said:The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
England had no mythology?lordmagellan said:My favorite thing about the books is that Tolkien wrote them because he wanted to create a new language. It wasn't merely for kids, there were a number of reasons for his writing. I've read that part of it was that he felt his nation had no real mythology, so he wanted to write one for them.
I believe it was "no mythology of their own." And I questioned the assertion just as you did; still do. And yes, I know he borrowed heavily from everything- most any artist/writer does. I just found the idea fascinating as a lover of myths and legends.Jupiter551 said:England had no mythology?lordmagellan said:My favorite thing about the books is that Tolkien wrote them because he wanted to create a new language. It wasn't merely for kids, there were a number of reasons for his writing. I've read that part of it was that he felt his nation had no real mythology, so he wanted to write one for them.
Virtually everything in his books is ...*ahem* "appropriated" from European folklore. Have a look at the Icelandic Volsung Saga (Völsungasaga) about Sigurd the slaying the dragon Fafnir. His work also bears striking similarities to Wagner's operatic reworking of Volsung - everything from dwarves to a magic ring created by the villian with the power to rule the world.
Tolkien actually wrote a prose version of Volsung called "The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún" which was released after his death.
But anyway; the saxons, angles, jutes, picts and celts had rich mythology. Anglo-Saxons had originally Germanic and Scandinavian mythology (see Beowulf - set in Scandinavia, but written in Old English). The Celts had their own mythology that was pretty distinct.
Yeah I think it's a really odd statement, if he's talking about Anglo-Saxons they do, Britons (celtic people before the saxons ie Welsh) they do too. Wierd.lordmagellan said:I believe it was "no mythology of their own." And I questioned the assertion just as you did; still do. And yes, I know he borrowed heavily from everything- most any artist/writer does. I just found the idea fascinating as a lover of myths and legends.
Jupiter551 said:The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
Ohhh I thought it was a prequel. Hmm, good to know. I may have to go reread the novels now.RainbowBryte said:Jupiter551 said:The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
Actually LOTR were sequel novels since the Hobbit came out like 17 years earlier but yeah to be a prequel it would have to have been written after LOTR :-D
sxycherrypie said:I could not get through 2 pages of the book at all. It was very boring to me,but the movie looks a bit interesting though. Can't wait to watch it!
blackxrose said:Ohhh I thought it was a prequel. Hmm, good to know. I may have to go reread the novels now.RainbowBryte said:Jupiter551 said:The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
Actually LOTR were sequel novels since the Hobbit came out like 17 years earlier but yeah to be a prequel it would have to have been written after LOTR :-D
RainbowBryte said:Jupiter551 said:The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
Actually LOTR were sequel novels since the Hobbit came out like 17 years earlier but yeah to be a prequel it would have to have been written after LOTR :-D
Hope the end of the world doesn't start till after we see this movie! lolRainbowBryte said:sxycherrypie said:I could not get through 2 pages of the book at all. It was very boring to me,but the movie looks a bit interesting though. Can't wait to watch it!
Read the book in 4th grade Never read the LOTR trilogy though, but im soooooo excited for this movie, had a fucking nerdgasm last night when I saw the trailer, when they started singing I got chills :geek:
Think im going to reread the hobbit though, Also you guys know they are splitting the movie into two parts right?? So one part comes out dec 2012 and the second in like 2013 or 2014
Jupiter551 said:RainbowBryte said:Jupiter551 said:The Hobbit is the prequel novel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, set like 50 years earlier I think, and mostly to do with frodo's uncle bilbo (who is old in the LOTR films) going on an adventure, running into gollum, detailing how he got hold of the ring in the first place etc.sxycherrypie said:Is it that obvious? lol. No I am not familiar with it all. Care to fill me in love?
Actually LOTR were sequel novels since the Hobbit came out like 17 years earlier but yeah to be a prequel it would have to have been written after LOTR :-D
It's still a prequel in the sense that LOTR is the main course, The Hobbit is a very much optional entree. I realise it was published first, but much of its relevance is derived from its being an addition to the "main" trilogy.
Besides, the film IS a prequel, in every sense - and to explain the novel to someone who doesn't know if it, it's FAR simpler just to call it a prequel. Prequel is a recently made-up word anyway if you want to get technical about meanings - it just seems like splitting hairs.
Indeed :mrgreen:RainbowBryte said:I normally just tell people its the book before the trilogy, lol. Doesn't matter though all that matters is it will be epic
adorkabelle said:The Hobbit has to be one of my favorite books. :geek: I'm super excited for the movie(s)!
I'm not sure how I feel about Benedict Cumberbatch being cast as the voice of Smaug.