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Meoff_69 said:
2. My biggest one...when a model can't knock out a countdown or goal and decides she needs to log off, then feels guilty and apologizes to her regulars for doing so. And ending with beating themselves up, for doing it! From my standpoint, and to echo a few others in this post, for many of you...this is your job, ladies! If your friends/fans/regulars are any kind of sincere with you, they know that struggling to meet goals/countdowns can kill your camscore and it's not worth the waste of your time and energy. They'll understand! Thank you for the gesture. Thank you for being professional. But c'mon, womern!! Your room...your rules!! I'll still be back to perv you during your next show!! :lol:

:oops: But I feel baaaaaaaad about everyone who triiiiiiiied... Irish/Jewish guilt? :lol:

Also! In regards to the tip thanking, and because I am also paranoid. I try REALLY hard to not speak or otherwise interrupt a smexy times, orgasmy show so I only smile in response to tips. I'm always so paranoid people are offended but I would literally be saying thank you during the entire thing otherwise... I hope people understand.
 
L_XO said:
I hate when I go into another models room, compliment her, then immediately get bashed for promoting myself or banned.

What. The. Faaackkkk. :roll:
How do you compliment the model? Makes me wonder if you go about it in a strange way that makes her/people think you're being attention hungry.
 
:oops: But I feel baaaaaaaad about everyone who triiiiiiiied... Irish/Jewish guilt? :lol:

Also! In regards to the tip thanking, and because I am also paranoid. I try REALLY hard to not speak or otherwise interrupt a smexy times, orgasmy show so I only smile in response to tips. I'm always so paranoid people are offended but I would literally be saying thank you during the entire thing otherwise... I hope people understand.

Aaand Ima gonna just leave this riiiiight....here.

All valid points, JJ! And totally understandable. If I may reiterate...those that hang out with you a lot, and maybe even a some cool new guests as well, realize that your actions on cam during smexy time, is a great "thank you" for tips recieved! And you always make a point to thank those that tipped, afterwards!

As for the Irish/Jewish guilt thing...I'm not gonna go there! No way, man!! :naughty: I'll lose that argument in a heartbeat! :lol: LOL

Legal disclaimer...No "partially white" suits of armor where harmed during the making of this post!
 
Isabella_deL said:
emptiedglass said:
jblackbean2 said:
4. Clothing
I don't like the clothing some models wear.

Perhaps they do it deliberately so that people will get tipping and it gets removed faster? :lol:

ummm..... noo...... :?

Lol I do this. Seriously, it works. When I have something sexy on, no one tips me. I wear t shirt and dungarees, people go crazy for it! Soon as those dungarees are off, the tipping stops!

Aedan I'm feeling very lesbian for you right now, you're so cute! Meoff can she join in on our marriage? pleaassseeee? :)
I prefer when cam models are dressed casually. When I see a model dressed to the nines, I start feeling like i'm in a porn movie event, which is fine, but not why I like cam models. :)

Once in a private, the model started putting on her pumps, I told her please don't, because to me, no one wears shoes to bed (which is where she was), and it just seems bizarre to me. She looked at me like I was crazy but smiled and left them off. lol
 
Things like, "I think you're gorgeous." or a complimentary emote. It's only happened a handful of times, but I'm sure the models had their reasons for being skeptical of my intentions. It still sucks when it happens!
 
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L_XO said:
Things like, "I think you're gorgeous." or a complimentary emote. It's only happened a handful of times, but I'm sure the models had their reasons for being skeptical of my intentions. It still sucks when it happens!
Wait... I'm not sure what you find annoying. Are you saying "I think you're gorgeous to the model?" And it annoys you to do so? I'm really at sea here.
 
Nordling said:
Wait... I'm not sure what you find annoying. Are you saying "I think you're gorgeous to the model?" And it annoys you to do so? I'm really at sea here.

He was responding to Amber's question (see above - she asked him about his earlier post). He probably should've quoted her in his latest post though, so everyone knows what he's referring to.
 
Birthdays (especially for girls who have them 4 times a year, lol) and asking for BD tips. Another one is around Xmas time, a model you're talking with for the first time "what is your Xmas gift for me". :)
 
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Maaaaaaaybe it's just me...

But when models do a 3000tk countdown to topless, then a 4000tkn countdown to panties off (which is all fine and awesome and NOT the complaint), but then whine and make tippers feel bad when she can't get her 6000tkn cumshow started within ten minutes of posting the topic.

And then sets a ten minute timer.

Then says that they don't tip because they obviously think she's ugly or that they don't want to see her cum.

And leaves rudely when she doesn't get it.

I know you care about your camscore, BUT YOU CLEARED 7K TOKENS IN LESS THAN FIFTEEN MINUTES.

IT'LL BE OKAY TO TAKE LONGER THAN TEN MINUTES TO GET TO YOUR CUMSHOW.

I PROMISE.




Like I said, maybe it's just me who feels this way... :laughing-rollingyellow:
 
HiGirlsRHot said:
A second pet peeve, is contests with really lame prizes. "Enter my contest and get a sexy photo set" and the sexy photo consists of 7 photos and zero nudity, that was so worth 150 tokens... :angry4:

To bad there isn't a better business bureau for cam girls.

You know, sexy doesn't HAVE to mean nudity. Just like a sexy cam girl video doesn't HAVE to have masturbation. My favorite video of mine is just a short striptease video (a pinstripes outfit). No dildos...no masturbation. But it's still a hot ass video, in my opinion. I've offered it in my Streamate room topic several times for 5 Gold (in addition to a generous tits and ass flash that I do for 5 Gold), but it seems like everybody wants penetration vids. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But it doesn't mean my striptease video is LAME.

If a model's photos aren't sexy enough for you, you could probably tip her to make CUSTOM photos for you. Do that instead of entering contests you might not even win (and then being pissed about lack of nudity). LOL.
 
HiGirlsRHot said:
Well I certainly did not name names, but yes it was annoying/disappointing.

The general expectation for a lingerie set is a girl starts of in lingerie and then gets out of it. Every other picture set I've purchased including several marked lingerie include nudity. I've purchased Playboy Lingerie magazines for less than the 150 tokens, which have a 100 pages of girls in and out of lingerie, including MFC Camgirls. So it was also number of pictures (actually only 6), my expectation of picture set is at least 20 picture, if it is inexpensive say 50 tokens than a dozen is ok and often got sets with more than 50. Part of the appeal of the contest was the consolation prize. Yes I could have only tipped 77, but I wanted to get into the spirit of the competition until I realized that I was on the losing team. Surely you aren't criticizing me for tipping more.

Since you don't offer picture sets, and your banner didn't offer any specific I had no way of knowing what was included. Obviously our expectation were different. But if you look at other girls, I think you'll agree that paid picture sets include nudity, and more than 6 pictures are the norm.
FWIW, I liked your video I won in a previous contest.


Geez. You sure are good at putting your foot in your mouth with models on this forum, aren't you?
 
CharlieKat said:
Maaaaaaaybe it's just me...

But when models do a 3000tk countdown to topless, then a 4000tkn countdown to panties off (which is all fine and awesome and NOT the complaint), but then whine and make tippers feel bad when she can't get her 6000tkn cumshow started within ten minutes of posting the topic.

And then sets a ten minute timer.

Then says that they don't tip because they obviously think she's ugly or that they don't want to see her cum.

And leaves rudely when she doesn't get it.

I know you care about your camscore, BUT YOU CLEARED 7K TOKENS IN LESS THAN FIFTEEN MINUTES.

IT'LL BE OKAY TO TAKE LONGER THAN TEN MINUTES TO GET TO YOUR CUMSHOW.

I PROMISE.




Like I said, maybe it's just me who feels this way... :laughing-rollingyellow:

If a high camscore model is used to getting high tokens per hour and is struggling to hit their count it's exactly the same as someone with a lower score struggling to hit a lower count. Either scenario their score will be affected if they don't hit that magic TPH number they're looking for. So it might not actually be okay for it to take longer than x amount of time to hit the count. So, while I understand what you're saying, some girls are just accustomed to more and I don't think they should be criticized for that.

As far as the blatant whining or the 'Oh, you must think I'm ugly' statements, I totally agree that it's off-putting and that would annoy me, too!
 
AedanRayne said:
x member tips me 200 tokens - Sure, $10 in my pocket but that's $20 out of said member's pocket and this member might only make $7.25/hr at a job that kicks their butt daily! That's a HUGE chunk of change (plus a lot of hard work) for them and entirely sweet that they felt I deserved it. Perhaps my view on this topic is skewed because I had very little growing up (food stamps kinda family)? Either way, I'm grateful for anything that I'm given and all that is given to me makes me a happy-happy girl!

I completely agree with this!

I get most peeved with chicks who seem to have forgotten that even though they may be used to making $30 an hour and they only get .05 per token... the person tipping you could make half that, and they have to pay almost twice as much for those tokens! There is a meeting point between the two and you have to remember its not JUST about what goes into your pocket but also about what's come out of theirs.

And I'll also raise my hand for the passive aggressive bitching/asking for tips for nothing especially on twitter. if you aren't doing well enough then step it up. don't whine! (it can be done tactfully and especially if a model has a financial problem, they can say so. it's just not usually the case.)

also saying "thank you baby" *kiss* the same exact way every time... rahhh
 
AmberCutie said:
L_XO said:
I hate when I go into another models room, compliment her, then immediately get bashed for promoting myself or banned.

What. The. Faaackkkk. :roll:
How do you compliment the model? Makes me wonder if you go about it in a strange way that makes her/people think you're being attention hungry.
Ahaha. Never mind.
 
AllisonWilder said:
CharlieKat said:
Maaaaaaaybe it's just me...

But when models do a 3000tk countdown to topless, then a 4000tkn countdown to panties off (which is all fine and awesome and NOT the complaint), but then whine and make tippers feel bad when she can't get her 6000tkn cumshow started within ten minutes of posting the topic.

And then sets a ten minute timer.

Then says that they don't tip because they obviously think she's ugly or that they don't want to see her cum.

And leaves rudely when she doesn't get it.

I know you care about your camscore, BUT YOU CLEARED 7K TOKENS IN LESS THAN FIFTEEN MINUTES.

IT'LL BE OKAY TO TAKE LONGER THAN TEN MINUTES TO GET TO YOUR CUMSHOW.

I PROMISE.




Like I said, maybe it's just me who feels this way... :laughing-rollingyellow:

If a high camscore model is used to getting high tokens per hour and is struggling to hit their count it's exactly the same as someone with a lower score struggling to hit a lower count. Either scenario their score will be affected if they don't hit that magic TPH number they're looking for. So it might not actually be okay for it to take longer than x amount of time to hit the count. So, while I understand what you're saying, some girls are just accustomed to more and I don't think they should be criticized for that.

As far as the blatant whining or the 'Oh, you must think I'm ugly' statements, I totally agree that it's off-putting and that would annoy me, too!

Haha. It's not so much the amounts of tokens needed to keep the camscore, but moreso about the tone and the "brattiness" of how she acts. If she's typically getting those amounts of tokens, that's awesome. :)
 
Don't know if annoying is the right word for this but.............

When models have it set for a minimum tip amount. I mean, first time for me in your room. Want to show a little appreciation, but don't know you well enough yet. Leave a tip note of some sort. Hit the continue button and bam........

Not accepting tips below XX amount. Well, all I can say is good luck with that. Have a great night. Won't be seeing me again. Next.............
 
RogueWarrior said:
Don't know if annoying is the right word for this but.............

When models have it set for a minimum tip amount. I mean, first time for me in your room. Want to show a little appreciation, but don't know you well enough yet. Leave a tip note of some sort. Hit the continue button and bam........

Not accepting tips below XX amount. Well, all I can say is good luck with that. Have a great night. Won't be seeing me again. Next.............

I had a minimum tip amount set when I first started and I'm so glad that someone was kind enough to let me know how tacky it was before my new model tag wore off.
 
RogueWarrior said:
Don't know if annoying is the right word for this but.............

When models have it set for a minimum tip amount. I mean, first time for me in your room. Want to show a little appreciation, but don't know you well enough yet. Leave a tip note of some sort. Hit the continue button and bam........

Not accepting tips below XX amount. Well, all I can say is good luck with that. Have a great night. Won't be seeing me again. Next.............

We were having a discussion about this in my room the other night and I was shocked that us model are even able to set a minimum. If someone wants to give me 1 token then I'm not going to tell them no!! :-D
 
NicoleRiley said:
RogueWarrior said:
Don't know if annoying is the right word for this but.............

When models have it set for a minimum tip amount. I mean, first time for me in your room. Want to show a little appreciation, but don't know you well enough yet. Leave a tip note of some sort. Hit the continue button and bam........

Not accepting tips below XX amount. Well, all I can say is good luck with that. Have a great night. Won't be seeing me again. Next.............

We were having a discussion about this in my room the other night and I was shocked that us model are even able to set a minimum. If someone wants to give me 1 token then I'm not going to tell them no!! :-D
Some ladies still have the misconception that being tipped 1 token lowers their camscore. But I have heard some women seriously say that being tipped a small amount is rude and disrespectful.

I'm not sure how giving a person money is disrespectful ("Here, you slut! You take my money, but you don't get all of it. You only get some of it. I bet that makes you feel bad, doesn't it? I chose to gave you a small amount of money instead of no money. Buuuurn."), especially on MFC where the norm is often small tips. Throwing nickles at a stripper = disrespectful. Throwing nickles at a model = not so much. We have magical collection machines, it's not like we have to bend over and pick up the coins.
 
I feel really uncomfortable when models post on twitter about not having enough money and not being able to pay their bills close to the first of the month, repeatedly, trying to guilt people to send them anything.

I could never imagine admitting to anyone that I was that irresponsible with my money, and well I really wouldn't be as my first priority would be to pay bills. I also think you should be thinking about your rent/bills a lot sooner than two days before.

Sorry if that sounds harsh :x I have seen it all over my twitter feed recently and just had to go on an unfollow rampage :p
 
Evvie said:
Some ladies still have the misconception that being tipped 1 token lowers their camscore. But I have heard some women seriously say that being tipped a small amount is rude and disrespectful.

And I'm not even referencing 1 token tips. I'm talking about throwing 10 tokens her way.

Because I know some still have the misconceptions you mentioned, single digit token tips are reserved for models that I have some sort of rapport with and there is something beyond the face value of the tip involved.
 
jblackbean2 said:
i hate when a model has only 100-200 tokens left before a show and suddenly has to leave or something comes up. Surely maybe next when they return they should pick up where they left off? or maybe do next one cheaper?

Is she leaving because she didn't get the necessary tokens to complete the countdown? I know that when a certain amount of time has passed, and I see that a countdown is STILL dangling at 100 tokens, it's like GRRR! LOL. I don't want to spend an entire hour telling the room "We're 100 tokens away from nakedness." Sure, some might say "It's only 100 tokens...why don't you just give them the nakedness anyway?," and I guess there's nothing wrong with that if a model chooses to give it to them anyway. But I know I wouldn't want to get in the habit of saying "Ah, fuck it, we don't have to get to my goal." A goal is a goal, and there are more than enough premiums with tokens passing through my room who could've made it happen.

Also, picking up where you left off later (I think I've done that before a few times) is okay if the model wants to do that. But it also means that the guys who DID tip before might have to miss the show later on (like if the show happens later that night or the next day), and a whole new group of guys (who didn't contribute) get to witness the show.
 
NicoleRiley said:
We were having a discussion about this in my room the other night and I was shocked that us model are even able to set a minimum. If someone wants to give me 1 token then I'm not going to tell them no!! :-D


Agreed.

I'm not gonna give them a flash for that amount, but I'll still say thank you. :)
 
NicoleRiley said:
Honestly, the point of a contest is that you might not win, and a lot of girls don't offer consolation prizes. It seems silly to me that you're complaining.

I know you said that the consolation prize was appealing, but if you had been on the winning team you could've got a hardcore video and photoset for only 77 tokens! I think that's a steal!! :D (especially after you decided to tell me that my g/g video that tons of guys had previously purchased was "too expensive")

But I think that these contests are half the fun of MFC. If you truly didn't like how MFC works you'd be on pornhub or something.

@Lily - None of my photosets are 20 photos either :) It's hard to be the model and photographer. I can take 100 pics and only 11 turn out decent!

ETA: I never put out photos or prizes in an attempt to "be really lame". I only put out content/prizes I think are good, and I can tell you that the majority of models are this way. So just because you think it's "really lame" the model most likely does not and is happy with what she gave. You calling it lame when a model has put work into something is most likely hurtful. I'm not saying you are trying to be mean or hurt anyone's feelings.. because I know you're a nice guy, but I'm just putting myself in Lily's shoes. My feelings would be hurt.

You are right Nicole, lame was a really poor choice of words. I can easily see what it would hurt Lilly's feelings and for that I apologize. Lilly looked lovely in the pictures and there was nothing lame about them. We had a significant different expectations of what a lingerie picture set consists. I'll agree the fact that it was consolation prize makes my complaining look silly . I was also thinking of another contest which I won where I was disappointed in the video which I should have used as an example instead. The use of the word lame was hurtful and didn't add anything to the conversation, me bad.

To me a prize from contest should be special, since they generally end up costing the winning members a lot tokens. This implies the videos, picture sets, fan signs etc, should be of at least comparable length and quality to the content that you can purchase directly and preferably better . Generally they are sometimes they are not. If I do win these type of contest and the prize isn't up to my expectation. I don't enter future contests.

Which leads me to my dilemma. When I see these questions on ACF, I always add the words, "that cause me to spend less money on the model". I debate about sticking to the benign, "I find it annoying when models begging for tips constantly". (How many models think are you in this category?) Or being honest, knowing I am going piss off some models .
So I am struggling with how to provide this feedback. In Lilly's case I went to her room, verified that no the zipfile wasn't corrupt there were only 5 pictures. I thought about complaining and decided nothing good would come of it, so I dropped it. But when this thread came I thought, I think it is valuable for cam girls to know that some members expectations for contest prizes are high, and it is important to set expectations properly. Satisfaction = Reality - Expectations. So if you advertise the winner(s) gets a special hot high def video, it should be that way and not something that is 3 minutes. If her banner had said short non-nude lingerie set, than I would have a proper expectations.

To me the most valuable thing I can do on ACF to is help provide insights on why members tip or don't tip. You all have regulars who put you on pedestals, and will use any excuse to tip you and think anything you do is the bomb. I readily admit that I am way more demanding than your regulars, but I do tip. However, on any given night roughly 97% of the guys watching you don't share that opinion or at least not enough to open their wallets :(. Some of these guy may have spent money in the past on you but aren't now. Why not? I can only speak for myself. If I purchase something and I don't get it in a timely fashion. I get annoyed, and will simply stop tipping or tip less until I get it. This is no different how we'd feel toward a friend who owed us money, or promised to a do job we paid them for and stuck us with the lunch bill. I appreciate the professionalism of models who are proactive about letting me know the content will be late and keep me update. . Those who add some bonus content for the inconvenience earn my gratitude and more tips. Of course members have different priorities and some may get annoyed when the model forgets to update her highest tipper club, and other like myself could care very little.

Now I realize this is no shit observation, but it occurs regularly enough that I wanted to provide some specific examples, without calling out names and getting into a pissing contest.
BTW, wants to know is this something this done feel free to PM.
 
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This is a good thread, but I had a feeling somebody was gonna say something that makes an ACF model feel bad. Think before you post...that's all. Now I'm off to watch today's episode of General Hospital. Goodnight! :hello2:
 
RogueWarrior said:
Don't know if annoying is the right word for this but.............

When models have it set for a minimum tip amount. I mean, first time for me in your room. Want to show a little appreciation, but don't know you well enough yet. Leave a tip note of some sort. Hit the continue button and bam........

Not accepting tips below XX amount. Well, all I can say is good luck with that. Have a great night. Won't be seeing me again. Next.............

I am pretty sure this is a function of studios, and in one case a US studio. (I don't know the name.) A few days ago I came across a fairly new (month) model with her min tip set at 40.
While a couple member room was screaming and don't be a cheap ass to the member who was complaining about the min tip. I eventually got the models attention. She said oh, ya I always forget to reset that setting. This implies that somebody is changing the setting, like a studio. Several months ago a ran into two other models with a minimum tip that I know were working at studio. All three girls were from south central US. The really funny thing is one of the girl was playing stop and go for the first time. Slow was like 21, and fast 22, and stop was 10. Minimum tip was 20.. Opps... :lol:
 
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HiGirlsRHot said:
MrRodry said:
From a premium point of view, I believe it is buying something from a model (like her videos, picture sets or any other product) and never receiving them must be a pain in the ass.

I hope that this mediafire porn witch hunt is not hurting any model/premium relationship.
+100

I have bought/tipped for plenty of stuff that I never got or required several PM or mails on my part and weeks and sometimes even a couple of months before receiving. At some point I just give up. Skype shows, that never happen, videos that never get delivered, raffles I enter where there never is a drawing, raffle tickets I purchase that don't get put in the box. Tipped X hundred tokens to be part of my club, get your name on my profile, I tip profile never get updates, "I'm going to give cards/picture sets for Xmas to best regulars, Xmas has come and gone and no present.

I've been owed 2 Skype shows from 2 different models (1 each) for a while now. One of them is literally going on 2 years. The other is over a year. But, they always gave an excuse when I brought it up.

"Try to find me on Skype when I'm not on here!"-- I'm not watching my Skype contact list like a hawk for things like this. Plus I sent Skype messages about it in the past.

"Well, I need to work on my token goal right now."-- I can understand that... but when there's no one tipping towards said goal for the hour or so I'm watching, and you can't take 15 mins out of your time not getting tipped to fulfill something that I've already paid for... You get the idea.

Needless to say, I don't tip them anymore. Nor do I bother with the "so, am I ever getting what I paid for" PM out of frustration anymore.

One of them even had the balls to send me an IM on Skype saying how she now does Skype shows with payment other than tokens. I was all "you do realize you've owed me a Skype show for over a year, right?" And she quickly logged off Skype.

Moral of the story, ensure you know the model will do the Skype show. If it isn't going to be right away, make sure you set up a time that you both agree on. If she doesn't show, only give her a few reminders when you see her. If it still never happens, take your tokens elsewhere.
 
NicoleRiley said:
Honestly, the point of a contest is that you might not win, and a lot of girls don't offer consolation prizes. It seems silly to me that you're complaining.

Then there's times you win something and didn't even know you were tipping to win anything. Happened to me a few weeks back. I tipped a model I know before work. And as I told her I was leaving for work, she said "oh, you won a photo set." I gave her the :g emote and "I did?" And she laughed and said "yes, your tip was one of the numbers on the board that won something." She's been doing this for a few weeks, now, I think. Has a board with tip amounts set at pretty much random along an alphabetical top row and numeric downward row with post-its saying which squares win something off cam.

:p

In general, though, I do not enter model contests, I never win. The only other thing I have won was PlayboyMegan's Spell Megan game, once. Then again, I did clear 3/4 of the board, myself, so I would kind of have been upset if I didn't win. :lol: Oh and a high tip gets a 15 min Skype from a model. I tipped it right at the end. :p

Oh, I guess I won a consolation prize, once, too. A model I know had a high tip wins a half hour Skype, and towards the end I tipped about 600 more than anyone else. Then at the last second, someone tipped 50 more than me. She decided with the size of my tip, that I would get 15 mins as a consolation prize. I tipped her a few days later to bring it up to a full half hour when we agreed on the day and time. And, yes, she did do the promised Skype show on the agreed to day and time. :)
 
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Hermione_ said:
I feel really uncomfortable when models post on twitter about not having enough money and not being able to pay their bills close to the first of the month, repeatedly, trying to guilt people to send them anything.

I could never imagine admitting to anyone that I was that irresponsible with my money, and well I really wouldn't be as my first priority would be to pay bills. I also think you should be thinking about your rent/bills a lot sooner than two days before.

Sorry if that sounds harsh :x I have seen it all over my twitter feed recently and just had to go on an unfollow rampage :p

I agree, but it's worse when they were out buying clothes and partying and stuff, then turn around and say they need money to keep their lights on.
 
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