Hook, Line but no Back Tattoo

[Vixxen81]

Yeah, but if I stay I am just gonna eat up your time in chasing me away again
It's cool, doubt I had much to contribute anyway.

You seem pretty laid back and probably know lots of stuff that can be insightful. On any forum, there is going to be a breaking in period for the newest members/participants.

 

[MarieElise]

Yeah don't go if it was me that upset you, I just jabber on sometimes, and put my foot in my mouth. When I said about the bar, that was more me trying to be a sales person ( in general), to anyone else who might be lurking and want to have fun that night. I thought you'd left, and wouldn't see it, and I also thought it would be humorous for Ozzie. I shouldn't project how easily I change topics and forget focuses, onto others though. This is a fun place to chat. Lots of people stay focused, and are really cool.

 

[Vixxen81]

Yeah don't go if it was me that upset you, I just jabber on sometimes, and put my foot in my mouth. When I said about the bar, that was more me trying to be a sales person ( in general), to anyone else who might be lurking and want to have fun that night. I thought you'd left, and wouldn't see it, and I also thought it would be humorous for Ozzie. I shouldn't project how easily I change topics and forget focuses, onto others though. This is a fun place to chat. Lots of people stay focused, and are really cool.

I ride the unfocused train. I don't mean to drop out mid-conversation, it usually happens when I'm working and ACF'ing at the same time.

 

[MarieElise]

I ride the unfocused train. I don't mean to drop out mid-conversation, it usually happens when I'm working and ACF'ing at the same time.

Yeah I have to be able to do that. There's like 10 other tabs and two other browsers open here Yet, somehow - still ... nothing's getting done

 

[ArcticKitty]

Yeah I have to be able to do that. There's like 10 other tabs and two other browsers open here Yet, somehow - still ... nothing's getting done

OMG this literally is one of 10 tabs that I have open! And given how I suck at multitasking...

 

[Nunyabizness]

Shit, that's not a bad idea, @MarieElise ! I know you weren't serious but still. It's stereotypical for bartenders to listen to someone's troubles when it's slow and obviously it's a thing when streaming and it's slow sometimes. Why not legit be paid for it?

I always felt like if I am talking to a model, I should at least tip something for their time. That got me in trouble with the one that I like. I didn't expect anything from visiting a model, but when this one found out I visited someone other than her, she got extrememly mad and if i try to tip her, she yells at me asks me to leave.

I have not visited any other model since February. That time was just for a quick private for some feminine advice. No sex involved. I do not tip other models. This saves me alot of money. I am not a person that is driven by money. Never have been.

Having said that, I am about to receive a large sum of money and I will be giving most to my fav model. If that takes her away from me, so be it. I will have done what I wanted for her. To give her a chance to live a life most people only dream about, even if I never see her again. Her happiness is what is important. Call me a sucker if you want, but I just do not care about money that much.

I am fine being alone. She has made me a better person. That alone is worth everything to me. I no longer visit porn sites except to see her and I don't do that often now since there is no chance for us.

 

[misterical]

I always felt like if I am talking to a model, I should at least tip something for their time. That got me in trouble with the one that I like. I didn't expect anything from visiting a model, but when this one found out I visited someone other than her, she got extrememly mad and if i try to tip her, she yells at me asks me to leave.

I have not visited any other model since February. That time was just for a quick private for some feminine advice. No sex involved. I do not tip other models. This saves me alot of money. I am not a person that is driven by money. Never have been.

Having said that, I am about to receive a large sum of money and I will be giving most to my fav model. If that takes her away from me, so be it. I will have done what I wanted for her. To give her a chance to live a life most people only dream about, even if I never see her again. Her happiness is what is important. Call me a sucker if you want, but I just do not care about money that much.

I am fine being alone. She has made me a better person. That alone is worth everything to me. I no longer visit porn sites except to see her and I don't do that often now since there is no chance for us.

This one has more red flags than the Soviet Union.

Read a few threads here. All of these behaviours are common themes. You really need to stop in your tracks and think very carefully about what you are doing.

 

[misterical]

I always felt like if I am talking to a model, I should at least tip something for their time. That got me in trouble with the one that I like. I didn't expect anything from visiting a model, but when this one found out I visited someone other than her, she got extrememly mad and if i try to tip her, she yells at me asks me to leave.

I have not visited any other model since February. That time was just for a quick private for some feminine advice. No sex involved. I do not tip other models. This saves me alot of money. I am not a person that is driven by money. Never have been.

Having said that, I am about to receive a large sum of money and I will be giving most to my fav model. If that takes her away from me, so be it. I will have done what I wanted for her. To give her a chance to live a life most people only dream about, even if I never see her again. Her happiness is what is important. Call me a sucker if you want, but I just do not care about money that much.

I am fine being alone. She has made me a better person. That alone is worth everything to me. I no longer visit porn sites except to see her and I don't do that often now since there is no chance for us.

I realised my last post wasn't specific enough.

She's not jealous of you spending time somewhere else. She's jealous of your tokens going somewhere else.

You say yourself that you no longer have a chance with her (here is the news - you likely never did) so don't throw all of your inheritance, pension or whatever it is at her. Your happiness is more important. She survived before your tokens and she'll survive after they stop. It sounds very much like you are being scammed.

 

[Nunyabizness]

I realised my last post wasn't specific enough.

She's not jealous of you spending time somewhere else. She's jealous of your tokens going somewhere else.

You say yourself that you no longer have a chance with her (here is the news - you likely never did) so don't throw all of your inheritance, pension or whatever it is at her. Your happiness is more important. She survived before your tokens and she'll survive after they stop. It sounds very much like you are being scammed.

Maybe I am, but she has never asked for money and claims to hate it when I spend money on her. That said, I promised myself, not her, to do what I can to help her. I keep my promises. I probably will never see her again, but she will still get part of the money that I have coming. What she does with it is on her. My conscience is clear.

 

[Nunyabizness]

Having said that, I don't even know why I am here. This is a waste of your time and mine for me to be here.

 

[misterical]

Maybe I am, but she has never asked for money and claims to hate it when I spend money on her. That said, I promised myself, not her, to do what I can to help her. I keep my promises. I probably will never see her again, but she will still get part of the money that I have coming. What she does with it is on her. My conscience is clear.

That's another common pattern when being scammed. Never asking for money and complaining when you do spend it. Again, the other threads back that up. Just be careful.

 

[misterical]

Having said that, I don't even know why I am here. This is a waste of your time and mine for me to be here.

We're both here because you've hinted across multiple threads that you might have a story to tell.

 

[mika_kedi]

That's another common pattern when being scammed.

How is a guy falling in love and spending a lot of money on a model a scam?

From what I understand she's not promising him a future together, lying about sick relatives or anything that would constitute a scam, I found absolutely nothing in his posts history (I'll admit I only skimmed through it, maybe there's something I missed) that would suggest she's doing anything other than her job. Maybe she does it poorly, the post he wrote about her being angry when he spends on other models would suggest that, but it is still not scamming him.

 

[Vixxen81]

Recently lost a friend because her 18-year-old son stole her credit card and spent an insane amount of money on cam girls. When he was caught he gave the typical "oh she kept asking for more and I felt like I had to give it to her, she tricked me!" When I countered he was not tricked, he stole the card for the purposes of sexual gratification through an online medium, and got exactly what she paid for.

She can't turn her own son in, because well the amount spent is a felony and it's up to the credit card company to prosecute, not her. She villainized the models instead. Up until this point she had been extremely supportive of me and what I do, but her last response to me was, "all sides are bad." Which essentially means I'm bad. I simply responded with a heartfelt "fuck you." Haven't spoken to her since. Probably never will.

Why am I telling you this? To highlight how it's always our fault for doing our jobs well. It's never her fault for leaving the credit card in a place he could access, knowing he has thieved from her before (and he mentioned some boneheaded idea of opening a cam site of his own before the charges). It wasn't his fault for stealing the card or lying about it. Nope. It was the model and only the model's fault in her eyes. If she didn't exist, Mom wouldn't be out [x] dollars.

Narrator: She'd be out [$x], just in another way.

 

[misterical]

How is a guy falling in love and spending a lot of money on a model a scam?

From what I understand she's not promising him a future together, lying about sick relatives or anything that would constitute a scam, I found absolutely nothing in his posts history (I'll admit I only skimmed through it, maybe there's something I missed) that would suggest she's doing anything other than her job. Maybe she does it poorly, the post he wrote about her being angry when he spends on other models would suggest that, but it is still not scamming him.

Sorry, I didn't edit his original post down to the point I was referring to.

I meant the whole "never asking for money and then getting angry when he spends on her" bit. That seems to be a common pattern in the "falling in love with a cam model" thread.

 

[MarieElise]

I don't know if she's scamming him, but I don't think the dude should give his whole inheritance or whatever this large sum of money is, away to a stranger online. Tips are nice. Giving away everything is more than I'm comfy with. Most things in moderation, in life, is a great philosophy to live by. Just relax and try to walk the middle line a little dude. Don't stress on this tiny online shit, tip her sure, if she's been a friend to you, or a muse or whatever. Avoid extremes. Just in general; avoid extremes of anything. The world is nuts these days with people being extreme with stuff. Everyone needs to chill a little on that imho. And your post read perhaps a little pre-martyr stage to me. Noone needs a martyr.

ETA; And no offense meant, but you kinda read like a gooning Findom client too lol Back away from your penis slowly...

 

[MarieElise]

I don't know if she's scamming him, but I don't think the dude should give his whole inheritance or whatever this large sum of money is, away to a stranger online. Tips are nice. Giving away everything is more than I'm comfy with. Most things in moderation, in life, is a great philosophy to live by. Just relax and try to walk the middle line a little dude. Don't stress on this tiny online shit, tip her sure, if she's been a friend to you, or a muse or whatever. Avoid extremes. Just in general; avoid extremes of anything. The world is nuts these days with people being extreme with stuff. Everyone needs to chill a little on that imho. And your post read perhaps a little pre-martyr stage to me. Noone needs a martyr.

ETA; And no offense meant, but you kinda read like a gooning Findom client too lol Back away from your penis slowly...

Whoops I meant walk the middle path. I hate it when I confuse Buddhist philosophies with police procedures

 

[Ozzie_]

Whoops I meant walk the middle path. I hate it when I confuse Buddhist philosophies with police procedures

You mean they are not???

Side note: as an Australian where we have had random roadside breath-testing at least as long as I have been driving (late 70s), it appals me that in the USA some (all?) jurisdictions allow some sort of bizarre subjective callisthenics assessment as a sobriety test!!!

 

[Vixxen81]

You mean they are not???

Side note: as an Australian where we have had random roadside breath-testing at least as long as I have been driving (late 70s), it appals me that in the USA some (all?) jurisdictions allow some sort of bizarre subjective callisthenics assessment as a sobriety test!!!

Um, no. A field sobriety test involves a breathalyzer and basic function test before administering the breathalyzer. If you refuse to take the breathalyzer test you are automatically arrested, detained, booked and blood tested at the station and you lose your license for one year plus pay a $10,000 fine.

 

[Ozzie_]

Um, no. A field sobriety test involves a breathalyzer and basic function test before administering the breathalyzer. If you refuse to take the breathalyzer test you are automatically arrested, detained, booked and blood tested at the station and you lose your license for one year plus pay a $10,000 fine.

Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. It is not the way it is seen / portrayed in many videos (real and fictitious).
But still, what's with the wasting of time getting them to walk a line or touch their nose or whatever first. Just give 'em the Breathalyzer.

Down here (in my state anyway) they do not even need a reason to test you. I.e. they do not need "Suspicion of intoxication" to make you take the breath test.

Such differences across the world always interest me.

 

[Vixxen81]

Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. It is not the way it is seen / portrayed in many videos (real and fictitious).
But still, what's with the wasting of time getting them to walk a line or touch their nose or whatever first. Just give 'em the Breathalyzer.

Down here (in my state anyway) they do not even need a reason to test you. I.e. they do not need "Suspicion of intoxication" to make you take the breath test.

Such differences across the world always interest me.

Of course that isn't the way, it is edited to make one believe all cops encounter all bad people all of the time.

 

[misterical]

I don't know if she's scamming him, but I don't think the dude should give his whole inheritance or whatever this large sum of money is, away to a stranger online. Tips are nice. Giving away everything is more than I'm comfy with. Most things in moderation, in life, is a great philosophy to live by. Just relax and try to walk the middle line a little dude. Don't stress on this tiny online shit, tip her sure, if she's been a friend to you, or a muse or whatever. Avoid extremes. Just in general; avoid extremes of anything. The world is nuts these days with people being extreme with stuff. Everyone needs to chill a little on that imho. And your post read perhaps a little pre-martyr stage to me. Noone needs a martyr.

ETA; And no offense meant, but you kinda read like a gooning Findom client too lol Back away from your penis slowly...

Yeah, I don't know 100% if she's scamming him either but he seems like a prime candidate to be scammed by someone. If he's paying for sexual entertainment and she's providing what he asked for, then I'm not suggesting that's a scam. It's payment for services provided which is fair on both sides.

That said, there is a lot of common ground between some of the things he's mentioned and some of the things seen in some of the back tattoo threads. Namely this "oh please don't spend your money on me" story and getting jealous of other models which you see quite often in these cases. That still doesn't mean she's scamming him of course. She may actually be genuinely uncomfortable with someone who is clearly throwing all of his savings and safety net money at her and be trying to save him from himself.

 

[Alde]

I don't think the guy is being scammed. He has been writing about this model on the forum of the camnetwork she is active on. His posts there suggest that she is quite clear to him and she is not leading him on or anything.
When suggestions are made that he should go elsewhere, not send more credits, or stay away from the site, his replies are along the lines of the people there not understanding the full story, etc. Basically the same as any other "in love"-thread right here.

 

[misterical]

I don't think the guy is being scammed. He has been writing about this model on the forum of the camnetwork she is active on. His posts there suggest that she is quite clear to him and she is not leading him on or anything.
When suggestions are made that he should go elsewhere, not send more credits, or stay away from the site, his replies are along the lines of the people there not understanding the full story, etc. Basically the same as any other "in love"-thread right here.

Oh well, you can't save people from themselves. Good to get that extra context.

 

[bud9752]

and that old adage , A fool and his Mom's money are soon parted

 

[misterical]

Having said that, I don't even know why I am here. This is a waste of your time and mine for me to be here.

OK Dude. I'm like a dog with a bone on this one but I'm glad you are here because someone needs to talk sense into you. Many users on the other forum also tried to talk sense into you but it seems you are completely incapable of listening.

I've badly maligned this model in my previous comments. She's not scamming you. I'd argue that she is in fact protecting you from yourself.

By your own admission, she doesn't want your money and the amount of money you are talking about is a ridiculously sizeable sum of money. Now admittedly, I'm making a few bold leaps here but it looks like you're about to give her your redundancy money over and above that.

Don't do that. Take the advice of everyone on that other forum and stop. Walk away from the computer. She neither wants your money, nor should you send it. Use it to live on, pay your bills.

If you're not willing to accept the advice of the dozens of people who have suggested you stop then hell mend you.

 

[Yabbadabba22]

Crikey, this thread has taken some twists and turns. It is full moon so even the OP looney is back.

 

[mika_kedi]

Good to get that extra context.

It would also be good if some people didn't immediately assume it's the models "fault" and a scam when a member is overspending and falls in love with a model.

Although, but that's another conversation, I am still not convined if it even is overspending if he says he's comfortable, it's not affecting his financial situation, he's not getting in debt or risking homelesness and that's what he wants to blow his money on. He says he has a lot of extra money, maybe it would be smart to invest it or spend on "sensible" things, but he has made another choice. Good for that model he wants to spend the money on.

 

[misterical]

It would also be good if some people didn't immediately assume it's the models "fault" and a scam when a member is overspending and falls in love with a model.

Although, but that's another conversation, I am still not convined if it even is overspending if he says he's comfortable, it's not affecting his financial situation, he's not getting in debt or risking homelesness and that's what he wants to blow his money on. He says he has a lot of extra money, maybe it would be smart to invest it or spend on "sensible" things, but he has made another choice. Good for that model he wants to spend the money on.

No, I appreciate it's not always the model's fault.

There's more context in another thread elsewhere. It seems like she's actively pushing him away, despite his high token balance and yet he has even more money coming to him that he wants to throw at her. It reads like she is an unwilling beneficiary of his madness.

 

[cbhours]

I dont understand how people are successfully sending large amounts of money internationally, when I try to do it either OFAC steps in and freezes it or their bank does. Is crypto being used or something?