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I know I'm a serious minority but I really really enjoy seeing models getting ready or wearing stuff that isn't lingerie. I'm a big fan of clothing styles and most of the time I'm wondering what (and sometimes asking) models wore before they got online. So, maybe this site is for me.

It would be cool if a model might log on at cammunity.com and then be able to work toward a goal of getting on MFC if the ultimate goal is to get nakey and maybe more tips if that works (waiting for certain members to log online, texting everyone they need to text, getting ready --or not, maybe they bail on cammunity before a countdown is completed). Hopefully that is possible. I would think it would be a win for models that are worried about camscore.
 
Hmmm this is interesting. It would be nice to utilize this on the nights you just don't feel like using dildos & oil ;) However, I'm also afraid it will make the freeloaders come out in full force. "Well you're not naked so why should I tip you" kinda thing. We will see I guess!

Um, models aren't getting naked nor doing sexual things there, according to its own rules. So how are people freeloading? They're not sitting there, not tipping, while others tip for nudity and shows when it's a non-nude site.

I don't think this should be seen as a "tip me for existing" type thing. If models want tips for their time, then stay on MFC, where they can set goals and incentives for members to tip towards. Expecting tips just for showing up, either on MFC or Cammu, is a sense of entitlement that is beyond words. I wouldn't expect the tipping to be anywhere near the potential of MFC; even Harli only got a few 5-10 token tips here and there while on it, and she normally makes a hell of a lot more in the same time frame. There's no nudity countdowns. There's no show countdowns. there's no groups or privates. Any tips recieved should be looked at like the donations on Twitch, because people feel like tipping.

Thursday, no one is EXPECTING tips. But a non-nude model is still working, even if she's not getting naked or doing 'shows.' There are different forms of 'working,' and that is completely up to the model to decide. So yes, of COURSE there will be freeloaders. Any member who enjoys multiple shows/games/activities/etc without compensating the model is a freeloader. This has nothing to do with whether she's doing anything sexual or not. Some models are ok with freeloading because it raises her room count. Others are not. This is completely up to her to determine if and where she wants to draw that line.

Kandiss, you've hit the nail on the head. So many people in this thread have complained that it's an unfair advantage to non-nude models that they might get a camscore boost from using this site. But then you get others saying that it's almost impossible to get tipped without doing flashes/teases/spanks/shows. So they don't make any money on nights that they have the flu or don't feel sexy enough to get naked. THIS IS THE EVERYDAY STRUGGLE FOR NON-NUDE MODELS. Right now, most non-nude models log onto MFC hoping to get tipped, but understanding that A) most members will leave so quickly they leave a trail of dust like the Roadrunner when they find out that the room is non-sexual, and B) of the members that stay, 99% will not tip. Because they have the same mindset as Thursday that they're not 'working' and therefore not deserving of their tokens.

Non-nude models can still request tokens for their time. They can still do countdowns or have incentives for people to tip. This is the only way to make money on mfc now. MFC used to have a 'just because tip' mentality years ago, but now most members won't tip unless they're getting something for it. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing; it's just the way it is. So while most models have a countdown for clothing off, ice/oil/bath show, cum show, etc, they usually also have other options for tips (like videos, flashes, and spanks). All of these options are null and void to non-nude models. Sure, they can sell videos. But if you're a non-sexual model, those videos would be like Youtube videos or specialty clothed fetish videos. Few people want to invest money in that when they're already on a camsite where they expect nudity. We have to come up with unique games/prizes/incentives to make people WANT to tip.

This site will just help even the playing field for both non-nude/non-sexual models AS WELL AS nude models who simply want to hang out (like Amber was saying about gaming nights). The crossover where the logins are the same, paired with the layout being similar to MFC, more members will be likely to use it as opposed to switching to (and having to learn) a whole new site (like Twitch). They won't have to worry about a new payment system. Everything is already set up.

The only members that will treat cammunity like it's a site that shouldn't deserve tips because the girls aren't 'working' are the ones who wouldn't tip you on MFC during hangout, chatty times anyway. They would either visit someone else or enjoy your company guilt-free. So it's no big loss if they don't tip. THEY are the freeloaders who don't realize (nor care) that they're freeloading. Oh well. Models, do what makes YOU happy, and don't waste your time worrying about people who don't tip. Either ban them to make an example, or just let them stay and make your room more friendly with a higher room count. It's up to you. Your room, your rules.
 
How do I get on this glorious sounding site? I can't find a link to it or anything. I want to try this out tomorrow!
 
My concern with the new site is that models who mostly just hang out and chat with occasional flashes and perhaps a big countdown to a cumshow or other such, will eventually gain a camscore advantage over models who predominately do full time nudity or sex related shows. My reasoning being that they can hang out, and still get tips that would count towards a countdown without losing camscore. Then for the cumshow or whatever, they could switch over to MFC for an hour or so, then pop back. While the full time MFC model will always have that camscore clock ticking at her. For none nude models such as Iris, I see this site as being potentially awesome. It'll be interesting to see the long term effects and speculation.
 
Idk man...lotta times I can't even clear getting my top off on mfc- last time I got on my only saving grace was someone who was dying for a private and swooped in and saved me. I got to know that guy first before he saw me naked.

I'm fine with chatting to get to know peeps first. The stupid score freaks me out no matter how much I tell myself it shouldn't.

If I'm wrong and it bombs, I'm no worse off then I was before. I definitely intend to sculpt ..drink coffee and b.s. on the site (as soon as I figure out how to log on) And I don't expect anyone to tip for it but maybe when I break out the sex bombs on mfc they'll trust or like me enough to feel like soending money on at least getting me naked.
 
I was on Cammunity for about an hour or so tonight. I really think I'm going to enjoy it. I would consider myself non-nude, for the most part. Getting my regulars to transition over is going to a little difficult though. Some tend to be "set in their ways" and don't like change. One HUGE feature I did notice tonight was guests are always muted, I don't know about basics. You can't unmute them... or at least I haven't been able to figure it out. (I don't think anyone mentioned that, I'm repeating someone I'm sorry)
 
Okay, so I got signed up and accepted for the beta testing on the model end....and one of my guys can't get the cam to load no matter what while logged in on Google Chrome.

The text chat and PMing works perfectly for him, sign in was super simple and without complications. None of that helps much if he can't view the broadcast tho. I have him checking further without other browser options and will report back with end results.

Thought it was worth mentioning.

Edit: apparently he's having similar issues with firefox. I'll continue reporting back information as I find it *nods*
 
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I am SO EXCITED for this! I have been hemming and hawwing about trying twitch but since I don't play video games it seemed asinine to try it. But I really just wanted a place to cam without a hundred guys asking why I'm not naked yet. I am a tease model, so this will be very tricky and while I look forward to hanging out, baking, knitting, and talking about movies, it's going to feel bizarre to not be able to rub my boobs or flash my panties when things get dull, lol.

I feel like using MFC as the sister company is an AMAZINGLY smart idea as we don't even have to sign up, reupload IDs, or anything, it's completely seamless for the models, and our built-in fanbase is there and sees that we're over at the new place. I think there is actually a huge market of guys that want a girl-next-door hangout (as you can see with the popularity of female Twitch streamers) and my body is ready! And the profile builder? GET OUT OF TOWN, I'M IN HEAVEN.

So are we allowed to drink alcohol there? I'm glad about the cussing because I curse like a sailor.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if there were women who were interested in camming but want to be completely non nude doing more performance and music who decide to sign up because while it would be linked, it would be its own site. For some it's just a way to explore online and meet new people, while gaining a little income and some confidence. There are lots of women who are in this position who do choose to sign up to MFC even with its nudity, so I think a non nude site would draw in girls, even with its connection to porn.

I also doubt it'll be a big thing for freeloaders, seeing as a reasonable proportion of freeloaders in my experience have wanted a free show. At least not any bigger a deal than the regular site. Many of my highest tippers over the years of my camming haven't actually cared about the nudity or the shows, so I imagine yes it might attract some who don't plan on tipping, but those people will more likely be people who enjoy the social interaction than the sexuality.
It's the same with people getting scared that girls will boost their camscore. At the end of the day, some girls get paid for skype shows and then log off. That's far more "unfair" to the camscore system than going on a site that doesn't allow nudity. Yes there are some very successful non nude ladies, but for the most part being non nude has a massive disadvantage. It might give girls who are already non nude and have a strong fanbase an advantage, but I doubt it will give that much of an advantage to anyone else. Plus, by default there will be less traffic, so it's probably not the best place just yet if you're looking to make money.

Something I'm curious about is how will the girls be ranked on the new site? Will it be totally random who's at the top? Or will there be a similar to camscore system?

until now the way to order on the site looks like this
 

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You're missing the point. MFC is the working site. Cammunity is the 'hangout' site. One you work to earn money by doing things. The other you sit around and chill.

You can show up to Cammunity in your PJs, hair in bedhead mode, no makeup, and that's fine. You don't show up to MFC like that because you're working to make money. Just like a normal job, you don't show up looking like a disheveled mess, because it doesn't fit the job environment. When you chill out at home, you can wear what you want, look however you please. Apparently Picnic was actually getting ready to cam on MFC on Cammunity, doing hair and makeup and stuff. And on that kind of site, that's fine.

If you think that models will use it only for getting online to sit around and chill, i feel you'll be very mistaken. But i can understand why you'd think it would create the expectation to be tipped for existing. If models are providing companionship, services, entertainment and offering tips for things etc - then they should be tipped.

Providing companionship is still a service, like any other. I used to get paid to sit with elderly people and talk to them while i was in my teens. Time = money.
 
I think it would be good if tips on Cammunity didn't impact camscore at all--neither positively nor negatively. And perhaps the default sorting of models on its front page is by...something that's not camscore (or room count, tbh). I can see both sides on having it positively affect camscore (why it's fair or unfair). I would love to use Cammunity for an opportunity to build my chatroom community and atmosphere. And if I'm really craving to put on a sexual show, any of the friends I made while on Cammunity can choose to follow me to MFC for that kind of show, if they're into that kind of thing.

I'd been researching YouNow for a little bit recently and I have decided that I like the way they sort their streamers on their explore page. Each broadcaster chooses a tag for their stream (I think you can change it every time), for example #girls or #bored or #music or whatever their brand is about. So on the explore page, you can see like the top few models for each of the most-used tags, and then click on that category to see all of who's using that tag (the streamer chooses only 1 tag, not like Chaturbate that allows a million tags). I think it'd be really cool if Cammunity (or any camsite???) did something like this but for "show types". For example, what if I'm a member who really loves watching girls do [specific non-sexual activity], it'd be great to go to a page and see all the models doing that thing I like. I kind of wish that's how room topics worked.
 
I'm wondering...Since tokens are supposed to be counting towards camscore (Right?), would they also go towards rank? If not, I am bummed because I want to be able to use this site but it would hurt my attempt for rank next month. :/

Otherwise, I am looking forward to the possibilities this presents. I like being able to hang out sometimes and not be panicked about camscore! I am interested in seeing how this all pans out :)
 
You can show up to Cammunity in your PJs, hair in bedhead mode, no makeup, and that's fine. You don't show up to MFC like that because you're working to make money. Just like a normal job, you don't show up looking like a disheveled mess, because it doesn't fit the job environment. When you chill out at home, you can wear what you want, look however you please. Apparently Picnic was actually getting ready to cam on MFC on Cammunity, doing hair and makeup and stuff. And on that kind of site, that's fine.

Nope.... Never shown up with bed head, no make up and pjs.... Never made more tokens than a regular night.... The morning bed look isn't remotely popular... :wasntme:

Some members prefer a made up look, some members like a girl who is more relaxed and "natural". To say that models shouldn't expect to be paid for "just showing up", is like saying to a person who works in a regular job that they shouldn't expect to be paid if no customers come in. Sure they may not get commission, but they have been there doing a job. If you are in a models room watching her, you are being entertained in some way. Company is not to be under estimated, especially in this day and age where so many people are incredibly lonely.

You say that twitch streamers and youtubers don't expect to make money. I call bullshit on this. I am sure some people upload for their own reasons, but many people who use these platforms are hoping that in the end it will pay off. And many twitch and youtube streamers get paid a really good amount of money! Just because they aren't doing anything sexual doesn't mean they aren't working or providing a service. Many youtubers do tutorial videos, or provide entertainment or information. Why should they not be paid for this information? They are doing what is a service people usually pay for, but due to advertising it means people can access it for free and the person creating still gets paid.

So no I don't believe that girls will necessarily earn as much on the non nude site as MFC, by default you will lose the guys who just want sexy times and will gain the guys who think it's free time. But so long as you are on cam you are likely sat in a less comfortable position, have some form of lighting set up and are chatting and entertaining while you're there. Being on webcam for a group of people you cannot see, even if you are doing nothing sexual or physically intensive, is pretty intense. And definitely not as relaxing as being off cam in the first place.
I never come on with the impression that I should be tipped simply for existing, but yeah if a member comes in and enjoys watching and hanging out with me. If I bring a smile to his day or a bit of chill/relaxation time, then yes he should tip something. If I am on cam I am not "simply existing", I am streaming live entertainment. Sure if I am sat there doing nothing and am doing nothing to interact with the room then I see your point. But that's not my style of camming. If I'm sat down chilling I am always chatting with people.

I don't believe myfreecams set this site up as a "hey guys! If you want to chill with your favourite model you no longer have to tip her!". This is a site to make money, whether that is money while the girl is streaming on the site or to gain popularity for when she moves back to the main site is dependent on the model and how this goes. While successful non nude models may not be crazily common, I know I am not the only one who over the years have found that the majority of the guys tipping for the countdowns didn't actually care about the countdowns and often didn't even stick around for them. They tipped because they enjoy the social aspects and like the model. I think this type of site will give a platform where members who wanted to send an offline tip to cheer the model up but didn't want to pay for the "freeloaders" can drop their tip and see the model's face light up.
It is also a nice way for a group of regulars to hang out and enjoy the model's company without it being about sex, so any tips they do send are appreciated as a gift.
I have noticed a difference in the way members spend now to when I was last a full time cam model. Members who dropped bigger tips in the room now seem more inclined to save their tokens for private shows or videos. There is more of an attitude that one must always get something more than live entertainment for their tips. This is probably just a culture thing because lots of models offered members extras for their tips, and therefore it's now expected.

I find it interesting on this thread to see that the models are full of excitement and positive interest, while on the members side I have seen more skepticism. I understand the points of some members, but you are talking from your point of view as someone who is seeking entertainment, but I have a feeling that this site is not for the bulk of members. It is more for the models and the few members who enjoy this sort of interaction.

Do I think models will use this as their main site? Probably not, especially if their not non nude. Do I think models will go there not desiring to earn? No, I believe many models will go there on nights when they expect to earn less because they aren't being sexual, but still want to log in and see what they can earn. I think some models will go there not expecting tokens on that particular night, but will hope that the interaction will pay off when they're next on cam.
Quite a few members over the years have suggested I log on to do various activities which I need to do anyway, that this is something they'd enjoy. I haven't because I couldn't earn much money that way. On a site like this I would be able to set up my camera while I'm doing revision to have some face time with my regulars and maybe earn a bit. Remember that all I need to earn to make the same as minimum wage in my country is about 190-250 tokens per hour. My average hourly token earn on MFC adds an extra 0 to that number. So for me, even if I logged on and made that minimum wage amount on average, I would be earning the same as a vanilla job.
I also think this could be a good site for people who have voyeur or ignore fetishes, or like the idea of watching a girl do regular tasks. Putting on make up, doing yoga, revising for exams, doing course work, playing computer games, reading, cooking, cleaning etc. Many of these tasks could be performed for much longer and with less energy than regular camming on MFC. So for those girls who want more of a "full time" job, this could be a good way to keep your hours up while taking breaks from the busy main site.
 
what obvious thing am I missing to log onto cammunity as a model?

Someone posted a link in this thread on how to do it, but then I heard from another model we aren't actually supposed to be using it unless invited by Leo or approved to beta test, as the site isn't launched yet, so using that link is essentially hacking? But that's just what one person said and not my opinion or anything, I don't know any verified insider information on this topic.
 
When I go in a room on MFC, it is to be entertained. Most days chatting and laughing is what I want. Other days I may be looking for boobs and other days for cum shows. Whatever I am looking for though, I tip. So, I may visit Cammunity on some days and MFC others. I guess it depends where my favs are.
 
Is there even a market for non-sexual non nude modelling? It seems unlikely.
I've been tipped just for talking before but it wasn't much. Guys don't seem to want to tip to hang out. It might be different for popular models but you have to get there first.
 
Wait did they really try to start a non-nude site called "Camgasm"? Lol. Talk about mixed messages

Camgasm was designed to be a private based site. No nudity in public. It was never really enforced though. Also cb decided that tokens cost the members around 40-50% more than on chaturbate. So the failure of camgasm is not really surprising.

I am totally struggling on mfc, so I will check this new site out. The camscore thing might be unfair on the long run, but for now mfc also needs to create some incentive for girls to even broadcast there.
 
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Camgasm was designed to be a private based site. No nudity in public. It was never really enforced though. Also cb decided that tokens cost the members around 40-50% more than on chaturbate. So the failure of camgasm is not really surprising.

I am totally struggling on mfc, so I will check this new site out. The camscore thing might be unfair on the long run, but for now mfc also needs to create some incentive for girls to even broadcast there.
What's your main camming site?
 
Can anyone with an MFC account stream?
SM is glitchy so maybe tonight I'll get on Cammunity and do a silly show singing songs with my stuffed dog for the hell of it lol.

My cam score is garbage because MFC really wasn't for me but I could use an outlet to vent my weirdness.
 
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