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Hi here! So I've got something on my mind and I wanna share it with you all.
I'll be glad to get any feedback from model's perspective and from member's perspective as well.

There are some things I've noticed plenty of times. And I still can't come up with any logical explanation.

1. Decent/big tippers that get obsessed with model.
These dudes have spent a lot of money on you, and even if you (as a model) haven't promised anything apart from online entertainment, they reject the notion and may turn into creepy stalkers with time.
Identification marks: "I wish It became real", "You're something more than just a cam-girl for me", "You don't love me, I understand, I won't bother you anymore".
They always come back even if they deleted their previous accounts and said "goodbye" to you. They come again and again with the same claims and the same (or bigger) tips to keep you involved in their pathetic shit. Especially when you start to avoid any communication with them because new mental health can't be bought for any amount of money.

To models: Have you met similar dudes on your way? How have you dealt with them?
To members: Have you seen similar dudes in models' rooms? Have you heard such stories from your favorite cam-girls about men behaving this way? If yes, have you given some advice to them?

2. Creepy weirdos that join cam-sites for "making new friends" or "just chatting".
These dudes are so friendly and amazing at the beginning of a communication. They clearly emphasize that they don't need any sex-related things and that they're extremely interested in your personality.
/When I was a rookie, I got so excited if somebody came to my room and was ready to pay for pure communication without any erotic things included. Now I bet there is something wrong with these dudes. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with non-sexual interaction. The best experience frequently comes with guys that came for my tits and stayed for the sake of my personality (But they still don't forget about tits, though, and that's cool). From my perspective, the optimal combination is 40% of interesting chatting, 10% of some funny shit and 50% of erotic stuff of any kind. If dude comes to cam-girls for "chatting only", he's weird as fuck. I'm not talking about occasional cases when member just got bored of erotic stuff and decided to have a funny chat instead. That's alright. I'm talking about members that seem to have odd principles and specific mindset in general. I see the problem in their actual purposes/.
Identification marks: "You're so special", "I'm not like all these dumb horny dickheads, I appreciate your personality", "I don't wanna see you naked, I'm interested in your mind".
Those phrases should be a red flag for you, at very least. I assume that their goal is to make you believe that they are so special, not you. They just wanna get all of your attention and take the rest of your mental energy. It sucks on so many levels. From beginning to end. It's like a loan you could never pay off. They literally pay you for taking your soul, LMAO.

/Fuck you, dude, despite of how much you're gonna pay. You've joined cam-site and you're just being creepy with your unhealthy desire to avoid sexual aspects/.

Conclusion: Each of both types is gonna suck you dry and no one of both is worth wasted energy, no matter how much money you got from them.

To models: What would you do if you found yourself in this situation? How long are you able to handle someone's weirdness if it pays your bills and brings food to your table?
To members: What do you think? What's the perfect combination of erotic&funny&non-nude stuff in percentage (approximately) for you so you keep interested in a model?

Thanks for reading all this long shit!
P.S. English is my second language so don't be mad at me if some of my sentences were written strangely.
 

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There are some things I've noticed plenty of times. And I still can't come up with any logical explanation.
people can be crazy

To models: What would you do if you found yourself in this situation? How long are you able to handle someone's weirdness if it pays your bills and brings food to your table?
Majority of cammodels are aware not to rely on a handful of regs, and to aim for customer conversion. If a member starts getting clingy or egotistical, I usually pay no attention to that. Until it becomes a nuisance then they will be promptly banned with zero fucks how much they have given me. Actually, anyone who bothers me or creates a disturbance gets the boot if they don't knock it off. I usually call out bad behavior when I see it, so 9/10 times they should be aware.
 

Lydi Darling

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To models: What would you do if you found yourself in this situation? How long are you able to handle someone's weirdness if it pays your bills and brings food to your table?
I'm very upfront and will usually give a warning if someone has crossed a line i.e their behavior is becoming erratic, overly clingy, controlling, making myself/other members uncomfortable or causing a disturbance in chat.
If they persist then they get permanently blocked.

No amount of tokens is worth feeling frustrated or uncomfortable in my own room.

Also your English is great!
 

JoleneBrody

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Ehhhh maybe I’m just lucky but in my over 8 years camming I’ve only had a couple problem regulars and none of them were really THAT bad compared to some of the stories I’ve heard from other models. In general, my room attracts very normal people with very reasonable expectations.
 
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Yeah. Sometimes I feel like some of them need to get a real help from specialists in psychotherapeutic sphere.
Cam-girls are unable to deal with someone's mental issues. And we shouldn't even try to. It's not our qualification.
We provide online entertainment. And it should be taken this way.
If you're obsessed with someone/something, you should visit a doctor, not a cam-girl. IMO.

Also your English is great!
It's very sweet of you, thanks! :shame:

In general, my room attracts very normal people with very reasonable expectations.
My congratulations! It's amazing. I wish you to keep your room along those lines :)
 
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Yeah. Sometimes I feel like some of them need to get a real help from specialists in psychotherapeutic sphere.
Cam-girls are unable to deal with someone's mental issues. And we shouldn't even try to. It's not our qualification.
We provide online entertainment. And it should be taken this way.
If you're obsessed with someone/something, you should visit a doctor, not a cam-girl. IMO.


It's very sweet of you, thanks! :shame:


My congratulations! It's amazing. I wish you to keep your room along those lines :)
I’m a firm believer in the idea of “the only constant is you” in that if you are constantly dealing with drama with others, chances are you are doing something to attract or allow it to exist. Not that anyone deserves being mistreated but we cultivate our gardens and control what we grow.
 
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Hi here! So I've got something on my mind and I wanna share it with you all.
I'll be glad to get any feedback from model's perspective and from member's perspective as well.

There are some things I've noticed plenty of times. And I still can't come up with any logical explanation.

1. Decent/big tippers that get obsessed with model.
These dudes have spent a lot of money on you, and even if you (as a model) haven't promised anything apart from online entertainment, they reject the notion and may turn into creepy stalkers with time.
Identification marks: "I wish It became real", "You're something more than just a cam-girl for me", "You don't love me, I understand, I won't bother you anymore".
They always come back even if they deleted their previous accounts and said "goodbye" to you. They come again and again with the same claims and the same (or bigger) tips to keep you involved in their pathetic shit. Especially when you start to avoid any communication with them because new mental health can't be bought for any amount of money.

To models: Have you met similar dudes on your way? How have you dealt with them?
To members: Have you seen similar dudes in models' rooms? Have you heard such stories from your favorite cam-girls about men behaving this way? If yes, have you given some advice to them?
As a member, I see comments like this all the time. But, I also think it's just people saying stupid shit in the room and perhaps playing a bit to the fantasy of model/member interaction. Where it gets creepy is when you start hearing about models having stalkers, doxxers, people posting stuff up about personal stuff w/o thinking such as what city a model may live in That's seriously crossing the line, and should never occur in the first place. I've made a few comments to such people when I see it cross a line.


2. Creepy weirdos that join cam-sites for "making new friends" or "just chatting".
These dudes are so friendly and amazing at the beginning of a communication. They clearly emphasize that they don't need any sex-related things and that they're extremely interested in your personality.
/When I was a rookie, I got so excited if somebody came to my room and was ready to pay for pure communication without any erotic things included. Now I bet there is something wrong with these dudes. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with non-sexual interaction. The best experience frequently comes with guys that came for my tits and stayed for the sake of my personality (But they still don't forget about tits, though, and that's cool). From my perspective, the optimal combination is 40% of interesting chatting, 10% of some funny shit and 50% of erotic stuff of any kind. If dude comes to cam-girls for "chatting only", he's weird as fuck. I'm not talking about occasional cases when member just got bored of erotic stuff and decided to have a funny chat instead. That's alright. I'm talking about members that seem to have odd principles and specific mindset in general. I see the problem in their actual purposes/.
Identification marks: "You're so special", "I'm not like all these dumb horny dickheads, I appreciate your personality", "I don't wanna see you naked, I'm interested in your mind".
Those phrases should be a red flag for you, at very least. I assume that their goal is to make you believe that they are so special, not you. They just wanna get all of your attention and take the rest of your mental energy. It sucks on so many levels. From beginning to end. It's like a loan you could never pay off. They literally pay you for taking your soul, LMAO.

/Fuck you, dude, despite of how much you're gonna pay. You've joined cam-site and you're just being creepy with your unhealthy desire to avoid sexual aspects/.

Conclusion: Each of both types is gonna suck you dry and no one of both is worth wasted energy, no matter how much money you got from them.

To models: What would you do if you found yourself in this situation? How long are you able to handle someone's weirdness if it pays your bills and brings food to your table?
To members: What do you think? What's the perfect combination of erotic&funny&non-nude stuff in percentage (approximately) for you so you keep interested in a model?

Thanks for reading all this long shit!
P.S. English is my second language so don't be mad at me if some of my sentences were written strangely.
This one's a bit trickier to answer, as I see a little of myself in this. Hopefully I can answer it, and I don't land in the "weirdo" factor. :p

For myself, it's rare for me to visit a room I've never been in before now. But, what might draw me to a room (I generally only visit MFC), is the model image first. The type of picture represented has to appeal to me in some way. Then, the preview of the room is the biggest factor. Sure, there's a bit of physical attraction at first. But, it's a combination of how the model presents herself, talks, what she does, and what the chatroom members are like in general. The first 30 seconds is critical in determining if I stay or not. If I decide to stick around longer, I'm one who generally takes some time to read their profile (I might pull this up before going into their room) to see if there's more of common interests (books, movies, music, other events, etc) for potential points of conversation if it comes up.

Where it gets a bit muddled is depending upon the type of interaction I have with the model. Some, over time, have grown to be more of a non-sexual natured interaction than initially. Difficult to describe how it became that way, as they are a beautiful person physically and intellectually. There's a few top models on MFC I've come to know ths way, and I'm perfectly fine with it. I tip "just because" rather than for something specific. However, I might tip occasionally for boobs, ass, spanks, etc. though it's done more out of playfulness than erotic reasons due to timing.

Then, there's models where I have a bit more of a sexual interaction with. We still chat about different things other than just erotic stuff. But, majority of the time is erotic in nature whether it be joking, or otherwise. They're the ones I might typically have privates with, or will tip to the room for more sensual things with a tip note attached.

In both cases, I do not try to take over the room by cosuming a lot of the model's time if it's in public chat. To me, that's what privates would be for. There are times, however, where I'm the only one chatting with her and it gets a bit uncomfortable since I know others are there to spend time with her as well. Thus why I like rooms where the members tend to interact with one another more. If it's via apps, it might be a few messages back and forth if I comment on a picture on SC, or if I haven't seen a particular model in a while might reach out to her and say "Hi" to see if she's okay. But, I try to keep it brief because it's her time away from cam and I don't like to disturb people.

Regarding some of your member "quotes", I think sometimes those apply even without ill-intent (intentional or not). For example, I think it's common for many members to feel that the model is special in her own way, otherwise why would the visit? More importantly, keep coming back? Same with the statement about not wanting to see her naked. Don't get me wrong, there's some absolutely stunning women whom I enjoy seeing naked. But, there comes a point where it's no longer the main reason to visit her, and it's because of the personality and relationship with a model for coming back to see her. For example, I once won a Skype with a model I visit semi-regularly. But, aside from a couple of brief topics of discussion, we never discussed nor did anything remotely erotic. It was fun just sitting and chatting with her about different things such as life events, interests, etc. same as I would with an offline friend over a cup of tea. I don't think she came into it expecting to do anything erotic, and it certainly didn't cross my mind, as that's the kind of interaction we have even though we've complimented each other on looks.

I don't think there's an easy way to describe what the ideal combination of erotic/funny/non-nude stuff is in percentages. It really varies based upon the model, and the relationship built with her. To me, this is similar to asking someone to rate their offline relationships (friends, coworkers, SO, etc) in a similar manner. Just like in offline interactions, there could be a variety of reasons why one no longer interacts with a model: difficult schedules, lack of similar interests/connection, or someone doing something to cut ties immediately.

Apologies for the long response.
 
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I am a tiny bt like that second one you described. I wasn't always. In fact, when I first got to a cam site, I saw people chatting and genuinely did think "wtf are these idiots doing; typing and not wanking".. But then as I was there more and more, it wasn't just all about the "wham, bam, thank you mam" and be gone. I enjoyed chatting to the model(s) and seeing them for more than*just* sex. But, with that said, I still now go there for both reasons: to get my jollies off AND to chat to them. I was converted basically, from a non talker to a talker..

I definitely do see those kind who ONLY chat and want to make themselves out to be better than those are are clearly there purely for sexual pleasure. Which, for me, I think those guys are pure morons (the ones who look down on the ones who are wanting sexual things). I do understand some are also there to chat but still it is sexual. One case is, a guy who is about 60 has problems and can't get erect, so he has become really good at using his words to be erotic - but even with that, he has the model(s) touch themselves etc - it's just he can't himself.


The ones you refer to, are ones I don't like personally. Acting like they ar better than everyone else because they don't want the sex and the rest of us are beneath them..When in reality, being there for BOTH reasons - being able to tip/take pvt and have a great session as well as chat and have a laugh - is fully an option on the table. I love to do both.
 
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During my days as a studio model in the "just here for chatting" type were also a ton of saviors or heroes, who spend soooo much money to save us from "evil", "porn" or just generally from having to undress. These guys seriously, actively tip against nudity and spend a lot, sometimes often called white knights I think. They're the reason we were supposed to never dress too sexy but always cute and helpless. I never really understood their motivation, they seem to think we're starving in Eastern Europe or that every day is a struggle for life, it's not. I was often sorry and grateful for them at the same time. Or maybe "saving a girl" is their fantasy and we provide that fantasy? Like a hot show fulfills the fantasy of others?
 
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The majority of my best members/friends are the type who are there to chat and have fun and not for nudity or sex. They make great friends because they always bring creativity and fun to my chat. I love them and they love me, I guess because my style is so mild and off beat we click naturally.
 

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I believe you. One of the problems I have or had with the "just here for chat and nothing else" or even worse with the savior guys was that they gave me the feeling I'm the morally inferior person. The thought that doing erotic shows can be fun seems to not exist for them or they find it morally "bad" to do it. These guys not only want to stand out among all the other users but also gave me the feeling they're better than me. But then again, some of them tip sooo well :/
 
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I’m a firm believer in the idea of “the only constant is you” in that if you are constantly dealing with drama with others, chances are you are doing something to attract or allow it to exist. Not that anyone deserves being mistreated but we cultivate our gardens and control what we grow.
I totally agree with you. But there are a lot of new/inexperienced models that have got no clue how to get along with people trying to manipulate them. So I thought my post&replies to it might help them a little.
 
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Apologies for the long response.
Firstly, thank you for your long response. It was very interesting to discover it from member's perspective.

Regarding some of your member "quotes", I think sometimes those apply even without ill-intent (intentional or not). For example, I think it's common for many members to feel that the model is special in her own way, otherwise why would the visit? More importantly, keep coming back? Same with the statement about not wanting to see her naked. Don't get me wrong, there's some absolutely stunning women whom I enjoy seeing naked. But, there comes a point where it's no longer the main reason to visit her, and it's because of the personality and relationship with a model for coming back to see her.
Secondly, I understand you perfectly. But I was talking about people that come to model's room for pure chatting from the outset.
THIS looks weird and should be a red flag for a model. But I (and other cam-girls, I guess) appreciate members that come for erotic stuff and stay for something more than that. It was my point.
 
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The ones you refer to, are ones I don't like personally. Acting like they ar better than everyone else because they don't want the sex and the rest of us are beneath them..When in reality, being there for BOTH reasons - being able to tip/take pvt and have a great session as well as chat and have a laugh - is fully an option on the table. I love to do both.
I agree with you! But it's the main goal for these dudes. They try to put themselves above the rest of other members. They truly enjoy this feeling. And that's actually gross.
 
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During my days as a studio model in the "just here for chatting" type were also a ton of saviors or heroes, who spend soooo much money to save us from "evil", "porn" or just generally from having to undress. These guys seriously, actively tip against nudity and spend a lot, sometimes often called white knights I think. They're the reason we were supposed to never dress too sexy but always cute and helpless. I never really understood their motivation, they seem to think we're starving in Eastern Europe or that every day is a struggle for life, it's not. I was often sorry and grateful for them at the same time. Or maybe "saving a girl" is their fantasy and we provide that fantasy? Like a hot show fulfills the fantasy of others?
OMG! I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I assume it's a real deviation because it has no logical explanations overall. I don't know a lot about EE situation but I still believe there are a lot of models that join this industry consciously&enjoy their activities without feeling poorly.

To members of any kind. I wanna STRESS it:

Models DON'T NEED YOUR HELP. We all provide a luxury online entertainment and get paid for that.

We are fine with camming. Otherwise, we would find other job quickly.
We aren't stupid. We aren't useless. We aren't unhappy (even if we are, it has no relation to this job).
We don't feel bad about what we do. We enjoy it somehow or other.

And I strongly recommend to avoid any intention to "help a model". You don't help. You pay for service you get.
And thank you SO MUCH for it. We have a lot of fun doing naughty things and chatting with you about hilarious or serious shit.
But we don't need your help. Cam-girls don't wait for salvation.
If you feel like a cool man who helps "a poor models" and saves them from "evil", go fuck yourself.
 
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The majority of my best members/friends are the type who are there to chat and have fun and not for nudity or sex. They make great friends because they always bring creativity and fun to my chat. I love them and they love me, I guess because my style is so mild and off beat we click naturally.
My congratulations! And I hope It will never turn for you into something bad on their part.

I believe you. One of the problems I have or had with the "just here for chat and nothing else" or even worse with the savior guys was that they gave me the feeling I'm the morally inferior person. The thought that doing erotic shows can be fun seems to not exist for them or they find it morally "bad" to do it.
I'm sending my digital hugs to you!
If they feel like everything that happens in this sphere is "morally bad", as you said, they should go to church instead of cam-site.
They will never meet a soulmate here because they blame the industry and shame cam-girls or "feel sorry" for models, and that sucks.
 
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Firstly, thank you for your long response. It was very interesting to discover it from member's perspective.


Secondly, I understand you perfectly. But I was talking about people that come to model's room for pure chatting from the outset.
THIS looks weird and should be a red flag for a model. But I (and other cam-girls, I guess) appreciate members that come for erotic stuff and stay for something more than that. It was my point.
Even if someone comes to a room "just to chat", it's different than those who are "white knight" as you and others describe them. It's the intent, and how they behave, that is more the issue I'd say.

If someone comes "just to chat", yet is respectful in the room, tips and actively participates yet doesn't do anything (say or act behind the screen) for any erotic reason, are they a bad member?

If someone comes with the intention of "saving" a model, whether in terms of tips because of thinking she's down on her luck. Or, more of a "salvation" from a philosophical/religious perspective, and doesn't let up on how it's the devil's work, and she's losing her soul, etc. These would be the problematic ones you're thinking of, I'd say.

There's nothing wrong if a person comes "just to chat" from the onset, and they fit into the description of the first one where they're respectful, actively participate, and aren't a creeper by any means. It might seem odd that they come to a model's webcam room on an adult themed site. But, maybe they aren't into gaming, etc. and they want to chat with someone who they can see is a woman? Just like some models have stated they have anxiety issues, I know more than a few members who have stated they have social anxiety issues as well.
 
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We aren't stupid. We aren't useless. We aren't unhappy (even if we are, it has no relation to this job).

And here lies a huge problem with a lot of the guys - tippers or not.

They seem to think that you models are dumb and poor and this is your only option for money. When in fact I have met a lot of models who have multiple degrees and have had careers in the most amazing roles (where they need to be smart: doctor for one). But it's a simple fact that things happen in life which lead to the end of said career (be it you being fired, you quitting (again for a million different reasons) resulting in models finding camming and then finding they are great at that too and being able to adapt to it and be smart and earn.

A lot of the guys, that I see at least, just think they are much smarter than the models. But they never even begin to try and have a conversation and realise just how intelligent you (the model) is, and if they do, some of them simply resort to name calling - it's always fun to see you ladies out-wit and out-smart some of the guys. Just from a simple "Well, I have this and this degree" shuts them up sometimes lol.
 
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If someone comes "just to chat", yet is respectful in the room, tips and actively participates yet doesn't do anything (say or act behind the screen) for any erotic reason, are they a bad member?
Nope. But it's a double-edged sword. I've met only few people that came for pure chatting&it hasn't turned into some shit later. But it was a short-term communication (for one or few nights in my public chat/one or two pvt shows). It was great. But these dudes didn't seem like coming back. I guess, they just were bored so I made their day/night better, and that's it. It wasn't intended to have a prolongation. And that's fine, no offense.

In long-term perspective, dudes that come for chatting only and stay tuned, are divided into two types.
1. White knights (described above).
2. Cool talkative dudes that stop supporting model's streams after a while but still have a clear intention to bother her with chatting.
I assume their logic is pretty simple. "I don't need your erotic stuff so why should I pay?".

I don't wanna generalize members, you all are different. But it's from my personal experience and from what I've heard.
Unfortunately.
 
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My example for #2:
I've met a guy who was totally cool and wasn't creepy by any way.
He made clear that he doesn't wanna get erotic stuff in exchange for his tips and just wanna have an interesting conversations.
He was supporting my streams here and there. Everything was wonderful.
But once I decided to thank him and gifted my snapchat to him.
After that, he joined my streams about 2 times.
And he has been bothering me on snapchat during ONE YEAR.
No erotic stuff was demanded. Just chatting. And no one penny was thrown my way anymore as well.
And it has actually pissed me off. I haven't had any idea how to deal with him because he was an interesting person and a lot of fun to talk to but.... Don't get me wrong, communication is fine. But it's still my job. If I wanted to find new friends, I'd join another site, not a cam-site. Cam-sites are based on financial "support". I thought it was quite clear. But not for him, I guess.
I bet, he thought something like, "You're my friend now so there's no need for me to pay anymore".
 
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P.S. Anyway, it's a smart strategy to make friends with a model so you don't have to pay for her time and attention anymore, LMAO.
Unfortunately, it rarely pays off. After a while, model just stops this communication if it turns into wasting of her time that she could spend on job-related things.
 
P.S. Anyway, it's a smart strategy to make friends with a model so you don't have to pay for her time and attention anymore, LMAO.
Unfortunately, it rarely pays off. After a while, model just stops this communication if it turns into wasting of her time that she could spend on job-related things.
Any experienced model won't even let this shit start, let alone allow it to carry on.
 
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Any experienced model won't even let this shit start, let alone allow it to carry on.
I can't argue with you, though, I assume we all fall for some irrational shit sometimes. We're only humans after all.
But I'm interested to know where exactly you draw the line. Like, do you stop any interaction as soon as member stops paying? Or do you give him some time to remedy the situation? If yes, how long before stopping? If no, how do you let him know his time's over?
 
I can't argue with you, though, I assume we all fall for some irrational shit sometimes. We're only humans after all.
But I'm interested to know where exactly you draw the line. Like, do you stop any interaction as soon as member stops paying? Or do you give him some time to remedy the situation? If yes, how long before stopping? If no, how do you let him know his time's over?
I personally evade timewasters by applying my work efforts to platforms that allow me to solely accept paid interactions by default. I offer cam sessions on sites where free chat entertainment is not necessary, I sell content so that my time investments are repaid even while I am not actively laboring. The places that I choose to maintain a semi-active presence are the ones that (mostly) won't punish me for my lack of a set schedule, either algorithmically or by way of the site viewership's trends/habits. The less social interaction is "expected," the better, as far as my career and work-life balance desires are concerned. Can't waste my time if I don't give you any for free in the first place. But that certainly also goes in hand with my particular chosen persona/brand.

But yes, in short, I am stern and quick to give them the, uh, ~choice~ to pay up or shut up. I don't bother with the sort of members who don't understand that I expect payment up front if they'd like some of my time or attention.

There's no "wrong" way to run your business, unless the way you are doing it isn't making you happy. Then it is time to change it up.
 

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My example for #2:
I've met a guy who was totally cool and wasn't creepy by any way.
He made clear that he doesn't wanna get erotic stuff in exchange for his tips and just wanna have an interesting conversations.
He was supporting my streams here and there. Everything was wonderful.
But once I decided to thank him and gifted my snapchat to him.
After that, he joined my streams about 2 times.
And he has been bothering me on snapchat during ONE YEAR.
No erotic stuff was demanded. Just chatting. And no one penny was thrown my way anymore as well.
And it has actually pissed me off. I haven't had any idea how to deal with him because he was an interesting person and a lot of fun to talk to but.... Don't get me wrong, communication is fine. But it's still my job. If I wanted to find new friends, I'd join another site, not a cam-site. Cam-sites are based on financial "support". I thought it was quite clear. But not for him, I guess.
I bet, he thought something like, "You're my friend now so there's no need for me to pay anymore".
Tell him how you feel and don’t forget to mention that you actually do enjoy talking to him because you do and he should know this. If he is decent he will either remedy the situation by contributing again or stop bothering you for attention
 
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Tell him how you feel and don’t forget to mention that you actually do enjoy talking to him because you do and he should know this. If he is decent he will either remedy the situation by contributing again or stop bothering you for attention
This. Even as a member I understand this aspect. Then again, I also have no issues if a model decides to remove someone from SC, Kik, other other communication means for various reasons such as stop visiting, screen captures, etc. It is your business, and it's how you make money. I wouldn't like it if a friend happened to show up at my work and started jabbering while I'm trying to get shit done.
 
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To members: What do you think? What's the perfect combination of erotic&funny&non-nude stuff in percentage (approximately) for you so you keep interested in a model?
This is a tough one. Personally, I internally compartmentalize rooms into those where I get off (conversation not necessarily great), and rooms where it's just fun to hang out and chat (and where erotic content is optional). My odd problem with the latter is that after a while, I tend to stop thinking of the model in a erotic context, find myself wondering why I'm still going there, and eventually stop. After having this happen a few times, I only stop by such rooms irregularly. I'm possibly the only person thinking this way, so please take this as only a single, possibly isolated data point.
 
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Conclusion: Each of both types is gonna suck you dry and no one of both is worth wasted energy, no matter how much money you got from them.

To models: What would you do if you found yourself in this situation? How long are you able to handle someone's weirdness if it pays your bills and brings food to your table?
To members: What do you think? What's the perfect combination of erotic&funny&non-nude stuff in percentage (approximately) for you so you keep interested in a model?

Thanks for reading all this long shit!
P.S. English is my second language so don't be mad at me if some of my sentences were written strangely.
Personally, i think you should not look down on people visiting your room. It looks like you will get annoyed by any regular at some point.

It's entertainment, but what entertainment means is up to your guests more than up to you. They are the consumers. You only have to set the boundries and it doesnt look like you can.

I visit a latin women now for a few months, she is studying art. We talk about art all the time in the most broad way possible. According to your resumé, i'd fall in category 1 and 2. Because once i a while i also tell her "i wish".

But the girl and i know our boundries. We don't take words spoken in such moments seriously. So to answer your question, there is no ideal percentage.
 
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Dafuq is the OP complaining about?

1. Decent/big tippers that get obsessed with model.
You hate customers who like you and tip you?

2. Creepy weirdos that join cam-sites for "making new friends" or "just chatting".
Ignore or block them?