Reasonable Skype Prices????

[Anonymous]

Because when you say no, or whatever form of no, hinted, or bold, people wanna get fucking stupid && ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT IT, && try to convince you that you should do it. She was probably just annoyed that say?

Yeah, like the "Y no PayPal?" guys and the "Y no public show?" guys.

Who knows with this guy though? I took his side before in this thread, but he's kinda making an ass of himself in other threads on here, so who the hell knows anymore??? LOL.

 

[dcpublius]

Totally agree with the girls above, I've not met a guy who's wanted skype who isn't trying to get lower prices.

Men do seem to have this weird idea that Skype shows should be so much cheaper, I wonder if it comes with that same idea that cam girls aren't supposed to be on here for the income but actually out of the kindness of our own hearts!

It baffles me why you think that people shouldn't try to get good deals. There are very, very few people who can drop the amounts you guys are quoting for that little time. For 2000 tokens per hour, one might as well get an escort and there's plenty of them at this price level.

And Skype shows should be 1/2 the price - considering you get the same money after MFC takes their cut. It's not any less money to you. That's the way I think of it at least.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Totally agree with the girls above, I've not met a guy who's wanted skype who isn't trying to get lower prices.

Men do seem to have this weird idea that Skype shows should be so much cheaper, I wonder if it comes with that same idea that cam girls aren't supposed to be on here for the income but actually out of the kindness of our own hearts!

It baffles me why you think that people shouldn't try to get good deals. There are very, very few people who can drop the amounts you guys are quoting for that little time. For 2000 tokens per hour, one might as well get an escort and there's plenty of them at this price level.

And Skype shows should be 1/2 the price - considering you get the same money after MFC takes their cut. It's not any less money to you. That's the way I think of it at least.

Markets basically work. MFC private is 3600 token/hour and 4800/hour for true private so 2,000 is a bargain by comparison and is 1/2 the price. On other hand 2000 costs a guy ~$160 and is approaching real escort pricing. Legal prostitutes in Nevada, per the website run $300/hour and believe is cheaper in places like Amsterdam.

I know a model who charges 4,200/hour and she has at least one regular customer at the price. Nobody is forcing you pay that price and heck on MFC you can get an awfully similar show for a modest tip or even zero for the legions of freeloaders

Personally I think exchanges that involve Amazon gift certificates and/or payoneer where the after tax value to the model is roughly equal to the MFC payout and significantly cheaper for the guy are the right way to handle to Skype. Of course it doesn't help the camscore.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Totally agree with the girls above, I've not met a guy who's wanted skype who isn't trying to get lower prices.

Men do seem to have this weird idea that Skype shows should be so much cheaper, I wonder if it comes with that same idea that cam girls aren't supposed to be on here for the income but actually out of the kindness of our own hearts!

It baffles me why you think that people shouldn't try to get good deals. There are very, very few people who can drop the amounts you guys are quoting for that little time. For 2000 tokens per hour, one might as well get an escort and there's plenty of them at this price level.

And Skype shows should be 1/2 the price - considering you get the same money after MFC takes their cut. It's not any less money to you. That's the way I think of it at least.

A Skype show is not only an exclusive private, but it also takes the model completely off the site and away from the ability to earn more then a couple thousand tokens in the same amount of time.

Deals are nice, but we set the prices the way we do for a reason. If someone wants a better deal, it feels like an insult. I don't know about any of these other girls, but I personally don't feel sexy and want to do a show after someone tries to haggle with me about the price of my nudity and sexuality.

 

[LadyLuna]

Deals are nice, but we set the prices the way we do for a reason. If someone wants a better deal, it feels like an insult. I don't know about any of these other girls, but I personally don't feel sexy and want to do a show after someone tries to haggle with me about the price of my nudity and sexuality.

Yup, haggling is a turn off, just like the begging or the questions of "why not?"

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Deals are nice, but we set the prices the way we do for a reason. If someone wants a better deal, it feels like an insult. I don't know about any of these other girls, but I personally don't feel sexy and want to do a show after someone tries to haggle with me about the price of my nudity and sexuality.

Yup, haggling is a turn off, just like the begging or the questions of "why not?"

I understand but this is a business and supply and demand is important. Let's say I can afford to spend 1,000 tokens on private show. My favorite model charges 4,000 tokens/hour on skype and my second favorite model charges 2,000 tokens a hour (which at $100 hour is is certainly a living wage). Now I often can't get off in 15 minutes, especially cause I'd want to spend a few minutes talking before getting down to business. We agree to do this show at a future date when it is convenient for both of us.

Assume you are my favorite model, would you rather me automatically take my business to my second favorite model, or at least give you an opportunity to say give me a 20 or 25 minute show for a 1,000 tokens?

 

[Anonymous]

It baffles me why you think that people shouldn't try to get good deals. There are very, very few people who can drop the amounts you guys are quoting for that little time. For 2000 tokens per hour, one might as well get an escort and there's plenty of them at this price level.

And Skype shows should be 1/2 the price - considering you get the same money after MFC takes their cut. It's not any less money to you. That's the way I think of it at least.

Hi, dcpublius. It's normal for a guy to try to get a good deal. That doesn't mean he's gonna be successful in convincing an adult webcam model to lower her rate just for him. She's probably thought long and hard about what her rate should be, and feels that she shouldn't have to negotiate with guys who complain and insult her. I just wanna know why you think Skype shows should be half the price of MFC prices? Skype shows are like MFC true privates...often times the model ends up chatting with you longer than what you paid for...and you get access to her Skype screen name, which is private info that other members don't get.

If a model's Skype rates are "too expensive" for you, that's fine. There are actually a lot of guys willing to pay big bucks 'just because'...for raffles...for 'highest tipper' contests...and for Skype. The thing is that maybe guys are LESS LIKELY to pay that much for Skype if they're already satisfied with the public shows/group shows/private shows they're watching for cheaper (or even for free). Obviously, a guy willing to give a model 2,000 tokens for Skype knows what he wants, and he feels that SHE is the right model to give it to him.

As for comments like "Hell, I might as well get me an escort at that price!"...I hope you've never said that (and never will say that) out loud in a model's room. That sort of comment deserves an automatic ban, in my opinion.

A cam girl does her job via THE INTERNET, and her job does not include meeting you in person, going out on a date with you, and having sex (in person) with you. If that's all you're really looking for, forget about MFC and just pay for that escort then...lol.

Also, I'm not saying that YOU do this, dcpublius...but I don't want to hear guys saying they can't afford to pay for such and such (and they want a really cheap deal), if they were just bragging a few minutes ago about the 4 new Wii games they just bought. That's like $200 spent in electronics, and you're gonna ask hardworking models to hop onto Skype and fuck a dildo for you for 200 tokens - AKA $10 in her pocket? LOL.

 

[Just Me]

Totally agree with the girls above, I've not met a guy who's wanted skype who isn't trying to get lower prices.

Men do seem to have this weird idea that Skype shows should be so much cheaper, I wonder if it comes with that same idea that cam girls aren't supposed to be on here for the income but actually out of the kindness of our own hearts!

It baffles me why you think that people shouldn't try to get good deals. There are very, very few people who can drop the amounts you guys are quoting for that little time. For 2000 tokens per hour, one might as well get an escort and there's plenty of them at this price level.

And Skype shows should be 1/2 the price - considering you get the same money after MFC takes their cut. It's not any less money to you. That's the way I think of it at least.

How would the model be getting more money? How are the getting paid if not through MFC tokens? It is not smart to accept paypal, too easy to scam the model by reporting it afterwards and getting money back, and other forms of payment are usually not instant. As I am sure many of the models here will tell you, the best way to accept money for Skype shows is with tokens. It makes the most sense since it will also help with their camscore on the site they work on and probably make most of their money from.

 

[16_bit]

I understand but this is a business and supply and demand is important. Let's say I can afford to spend 1,000 tokens on private show. My favorite model charges 4,000 tokens/hour on skype and my second favorite model charges 2,000 tokens a hour (which at $100 hour is is certainly a living wage). Now I often can't get off in 15 minutes, especially cause I'd want to spend a few minutes talking before getting down to business. We agree to do this show at a future date when it is convenient for both of us.

Assume you are my favorite model, would you rather me automatically take my business to my second favorite model, or at least give you an opportunity to say give me a 20 or 25 minute show for a 1,000 tokens?

Quite a few models are willing to change how long a skype might be, some allow bookings in 10 or 15 min slots, not just an hour so negotiating time isn't the problem. If you can't do what you want in the time, that's your problem and shouldn't change a models time or price.
But if a model was your favourite, surely you'd respect her prices and wouldn't ask her to change them for you or give you more time for the price. It's not really fair to put pressure on someone by asking for them to do so or you'll go to your other model and give her the tokens. If you really want to watch your favourite model, you could just save up.
And while a 2,000 token private might be $100 after mfc takes it's cut, models have to then pay tax and anything else themselves from that money. Many members don't seem to know/realise or remember that.

 

[LadyLuna]

Deals are nice, but we set the prices the way we do for a reason. If someone wants a better deal, it feels like an insult. I don't know about any of these other girls, but I personally don't feel sexy and want to do a show after someone tries to haggle with me about the price of my nudity and sexuality.

Yup, haggling is a turn off, just like the begging or the questions of "why not?"

I understand but this is a business and supply and demand is important. Let's say I can afford to spend 1,000 tokens on private show. My favorite model charges 4,000 tokens/hour on skype and my second favorite model charges 2,000 tokens a hour (which at $100 hour is is certainly a living wage). Now I often can't get off in 15 minutes, especially cause I'd want to spend a few minutes talking before getting down to business. We agree to do this show at a future date when it is convenient for both of us.

Assume you are my favorite model, would you rather me automatically take my business to my second favorite model, or at least give you an opportunity to say give me a 20 or 25 minute show for a 1,000 tokens?

I would rather you go to the other model, because having to say "no" lowers my sex-drive, which lowers my sexiness to the other members. If you ask how much for skype and then try to haggle with me, it makes me feel bad to have to turn you down, which not just loses me your tokens, but the tokens of the guys who were thinking about taking me private, but now that I'm not so happy, don't want to anymore.

If you haggle with a model, if she takes you up on your haggling, she loses, because other people will call her on it, "But you gave it to that guy for ___". If she doesn't, she might lose, because she feels bad that a good member pushed for something she wasn't willing to give.

If your favorite model is too pricey, don't say anything to her one way or the other.


"How much for skype bb?"
"500 for 15 minutes."

Proper replies:
"Is now good?"
or
"Thanks bb!" (member leaves without saying anything else about it)

Douche replies:

"Can I pay paypal?"
"Can I take you for 10 minutes at 400?"
"Is there anything cheaper?"
"I can't afford that"
"What can I get for 300?"

Any of those replies leaves me feeling like you're an asshole.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Quite a few models are willing to change how long a skype might be, some allow bookings in 10 or 15 min slots, not just an hour so negotiating time isn't the problem. If you can't do what you want in the time, that's your problem and shouldn't change a models time or price.
But if a model was your favourite, surely you'd respect her prices and wouldn't ask her to change them for you or give you more time for the price. It's not really fair to put pressure on someone by asking for them to do so or you'll go to your other model and give her the tokens. If you really want to watch your favourite model, you could just save up.
And while a 2,000 token private might be $100 after mfc takes it's cut, models have to then pay tax and anything else themselves from that money. Many members don't seem to know/realise or remember that.

No offense mate, but is this the ask-model forum and you are not one. I have a lawyer that I use occasionally, she charges $250/hour of course she has to rent office space, and her shared admin with the other lawyer in the office . So she doesn't get nearly $250/hour and she has to pay the same taxes any independent contractor does. I had fairly standard contract I needed drawn up, she didn't don't them often and says it will take 6 hours or $1,500, but my budget is only $1,000 for legal expenses for this project. My friend says he used a lawyer that charged $800 flat rate. Quality matters but maybe not that much. Now my lawyer isn't always booked and there isn't a huge time pressure. So do I go to my lawyer, explain the situation, my budget and ask her will she do the job for $1,000. Or do I simple go to the other guy and plunk down my $800?

This is not an entirely theoretical question. If the majority of the model say no my price is my price please don't insult me than, I'll take my business my second favorite. If on the other most of them say gee making 1,000 tokens for 20 or 25 minutes with a guy who isn't asshole is better than sitting around in free chat with assholes who are paying nothing, than I'll treat a cam girl the same way I'd treat my lawyer.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Quite a few models are willing to change how long a skype might be, some allow bookings in 10 or 15 min slots, not just an hour so negotiating time isn't the problem. If you can't do what you want in the time, that's your problem and shouldn't change a models time or price.
But if a model was your favourite, surely you'd respect her prices and wouldn't ask her to change them for you or give you more time for the price. It's not really fair to put pressure on someone by asking for them to do so or you'll go to your other model and give her the tokens. If you really want to watch your favourite model, you could just save up.
And while a 2,000 token private might be $100 after mfc takes it's cut, models have to then pay tax and anything else themselves from that money. Many members don't seem to know/realise or remember that.

No offense mate, but is this the ask-model forum and you are not one.

No offense mate... but this is a discussion forum for all members. Even though this is the "ask a model" section it is still a public forum and other people are allowed to join a conversation, just as you did. That is one of the reasons why the community here is one of the best out there. If you have a problem with him piping up then you should have a problem with YOU doing so as well. :handgestures-salute:

 

[mynameisbob84]

I used to be of the opinion that Skype shows were overpriced and that they should cost the paying customer less than a private show on MFC. But then, things were pointed out to me that I'd overlooked and then I gave it more than a few second's thought and now I've changed my mind completely.

Like Just Me pointed out, most Skype shows are gonna be paid for through MFC anyway (safer than PayPal, yeah?) so there's no saving to be passed on to the customer to begin with.
But assuming the model does accept PayPal, or gift cards, or money transfers, or cheque, or postal order (are they still a thing?); while the model no longer has to give up 50% of the money she makes for the Skype show to MFC, that money no longer goes towards her camscore, which could negatively affect her down the line. The extra money she makes on the Skype show at least compensates for that though.

The other thing to take into account is that things cost what they cost. If a model believes that 30 minutes of private time with her on Skype is worth 2000 tokens, then that's what it costs. You can't expect somebody to lower their prices because they don't fall in line with your expectations.
I went shopping for some new trainers ('sneakers' to you American folk, I believe) the other day and there were a few pairs that I really liked, and would really like to own, but they cost too much for me to justify buying. That doesn't mean they should cost any less though. The fact that I can't afford them isn't Adidas' problem. It's mine.
If something truly costs too much, then nobody will pay for it and it will never be sold. So long as people are taking a model up on their Skype shows, they're not charging "too much".

People seem to forget that private shows and Skype shows and custom videos and pic sets and panties and jet packs and caviar and Adidas trainers are luxuries. They let their sense of entitlement get the better of them and convince themselves that these things should always be within their price range, because they want these things and why can't they have them, dammit!! The world doesn't work that way sadly.

 

[JickyJuly]

I used to be of the opinion that Skype shows were overpriced and that they should cost the paying customer less than a private show on MFC. But then, things were pointed out to me that I'd overlooked and then I gave it more than a few second's thought and now I've changed my mind completely.

Like Just Me pointed out, most Skype shows are gonna be paid for through MFC anyway (safer than PayPal, yeah?) so there's no saving to be passed on to the customer to begin with.
But assuming the model does accept PayPal, or gift cards, or money transfers, or cheque, or postal order (are they still a thing?); while the model no longer has to give up 50% of the money she makes for the Skype show to MFC, that money no longer goes towards her camscore, which could negatively affect her down the line. The extra money she makes on the Skype show at least compensates for that though.

The other thing to take into account is that things cost what they cost. If a model believes that 30 minutes of private time with her on Skype is worth 2000 tokens, then that's what it costs. You can't expect somebody to lower their prices because they don't fall in line with your expectations.
I went shopping for some new trainers ('sneakers' to you American folk, I believe) the other day and there were a few pairs that I really liked, and would really like to own, but they cost too much for me to justify buying. That doesn't mean they should cost any less though. The fact that I can't afford them isn't Adidas' problem. It's mine.
If something truly costs too much, then nobody will pay for it and it will never be sold. So long as people are taking a model up on their Skype shows, they're not charging "too much".

People seem to forget that private shows and Skype shows and custom videos and pic sets and panties and jet packs and caviar and Adidas trainers are luxuries. They let their sense of entitlement get the better of them and convince themselves that these things should always be within their price range, because they want these things and why can't they have them, dammit!! The world doesn't work that way sadly.

THIS. You don't need a camgirl's undivided attention. If you don't want her attention bad enough to pay her price, have some dignity and recognize that you're not at a yard sale.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

The other thing to take into account is that things cost what they cost. If a model believes that 30 minutes of private time with her on Skype is worth 2000 tokens, then that's what it costs. You can't expect somebody to lower their prices because they don't fall in line with your expectations.
I went shopping for some new trainers ('sneakers' to you American folk, I believe) the other day and there were a few pairs that I really liked, and would really like to own, but they cost too much for me to justify buying. That doesn't mean they should cost any less though. The fact that I can't afford them isn't Adidas' problem. It's mine.
If something truly costs too much, then nobody will pay for it and it will never be sold. So long as people are taking a model up on their Skype shows, they're not charging "too much".

People seem to forget that private shows and Skype shows and custom videos and pic sets and panties and jet packs and caviar and Adidas trainers are luxuries. They let their sense of entitlement get the better of them and convince themselves that these things should always be within their price range, because they want these things and why can't they have them, dammit!! The world doesn't work that way sadly.

Prices are determined but what willing buyer and seller agree on. Actually the fact that you didn't buy the Adidas is not just your problem it is Adidas's problem and the store's problem, unless you are the rare type that only buys Adidas and only buys from one store. The markup on sneakers is so high that if cut the price by 2/3 Adidas would still make money, but of course they have found that having high prices on some Adidas and having other less expensive shoes is the way to maximize profits. For most people if they find they want something but it is too expensive their first move is to check another store or online to see if they can find it cheaper. (Not possible for a cam model) Second they may look for another brand say Reebok, or Nike which is comparable, (extremely easy on MFC). Or they may well wait for sale. (Cam models routinely have sales on items including skype shows). A final option which is rare in the US and Europe, but very common outside in the rest of the world is to haggle. When I am shoe shopping, I generally start looking at the shoes on sale but often they don't have my size or they don't fit. If end up wanting a shoe that isn't on sale. I always ask the salesman, will this shoe be on sale soon. A surprisingly large amount of time they say yes in a week or two. At which point I always ask will you give me the sale price today? and I have yet to be turned down. I get the $150 pair of sneaker for $100, and the store and the sneaker manufacture all make money.

The luxury argument is a real red herring. I drive an Accura a luxury brand car, that certainly didn't stop me for bargaining with all of the dealer in town to get the best price. My friend recently purchased an 80' yacht for something around $7 million, he certainly didn't pay the list price that builder asked for. In the lawyer example I mentioned early, the lawyer was happy to do the work for $1,000 and justified the additional time as research that would be valuable in the future.

Now as JickyJicky, points out it isn't the services of cam girl provides isn't a yard sale. If haggling puts a girl in a bad mood as LadyLuna suggests, than I can see why she'd prefer I take my business somewhere else.

In my case, I'll just wait for the next skype sale, cause at the end of the day $80 to get off is as much I'm willing to spend.

 

[JoleneBrody]

There is also the idea that if something is priced too low, too many people will take it and suddenly the model is in over her head. I'll use custom videos for example. I make a LOT of custom videos, so many that I had to designate a content day once a week or else I felt overwhelmed. I never offer a sale on these, in fact, I don't even advertise them! I'm kept busy enough without advertising them that honestly, I don't have the time to take on 1 or 2 new custom video requests a month.
Same idea can be given to skype shows. price them too low and you'll be selling more minutes than you have time in your day.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

There is also the idea that if something is priced too low, too many people will take it and suddenly the model is in over her head. I'll use custom videos for example. I make a LOT of custom videos, so many that I had to designate a content day once a week or else I felt overwhelmed. I never offer a sale on these, in fact, I don't even advertise them! I'm kept busy enough without advertising them that honestly, I don't have the time to take on 1 or 2 new custom video requests a month.
Same idea can be given to skype shows. price them too low and you'll be selling more minutes than you have time in your day.

I am guessing for plenty of models on the site this would be great problem to have. Tim's survey of lower cam rate models showed average skype price of 275 tokens/10 minutes= 1650/tokens an hour. Now if they can do this for 6 hours a day, admittedly this would probably be tough on the clit, and pussy :lol: , that is 10K tokens a day and over $10K a month and even 1/2 that amount is not too shabby.

For the cam girl struggling to hit an 800 token countdown....

 

[JickyJuly]

There is also the idea that if something is priced too low, too many people will take it and suddenly the model is in over her head. I'll use custom videos for example. I make a LOT of custom videos, so many that I had to designate a content day once a week or else I felt overwhelmed. I never offer a sale on these, in fact, I don't even advertise them! I'm kept busy enough without advertising them that honestly, I don't have the time to take on 1 or 2 new custom video requests a month.
Same idea can be given to skype shows. price them too low and you'll be selling more minutes than you have time in your day.

I am guessing for plenty of models on the site this would be great problem to have. Tim's survey of lower cam rate models showed average skype price of 275 tokens/10 minutes= 1650/tokens an hour. Now if they can do this for 6 hours a day, admittedly this would probably be tough on the clit, and pussy :lol: , that is 10K tokens a day and over $10K a month and even 1/2 that amount is not too shabby.

For the cam girl struggling to hit an 800 token countdown....

It's a nice theory, but low camscore models aren't going to book 6 hours worth of Skypes per day. Not to mention that if you want to or are willing to go hard at your body like that, it would be more lucrative and less draining to just sign up for a site like Streamate. Plus, no matter what price point a girl puts herself at, a lot of goobers are going to try to talk the price down because they think they're special. Dudes who have a few favorite girls that they want to skype with are one thing, but the ones who constantly ask anyone for skype shows are just trying to get the cheapest thing they can find. That gets old quick. On top of that, if a girl undervalues her time too much, her target audience will begin to do the same.

 

[ComicOzzie]

When a model quotes me her prices for Skype, I either take it or leave it. I certainly do not try to negotiate a lower rate. That would be uncouth. :naughty:

 

[Nordling]

When a model quotes me her prices for Skype, I either take it or leave it. I certainly do not try to negotiate a lower rate. That would be uncouth. :naughty:

Definitely uncouth. Plus the idea of haggling for what should be an intimate (as far as the internet can ever be called intimate) time with someone you are attracted to...either physically, mentally or both would be like the legendary saltpeter.

I don't haggle with people who serve me food either. For slightly different reasons. :lol:

 

[LadyLuna]

I used to take messenger or skype shows for discounted rates. Know what happened? My income went down considerably. So, I don't want to take skype shows. If I do take one, it had better be worth the drop in income from other sources.

 

[16_bit]

No offense mate, but is this the ask-model forum and you are not one.

No offense mate... but this is a discussion forum for all members. Even though this is the "ask a model" section it is still a public forum and other people are allowed to join a conversation, just as you did. That is one of the reasons why the community here is one of the best out there. If you have a problem with him piping up then you should have a problem with YOU doing so as well. :handgestures-salute:

No offense taken but what Jolene said. I understand this is the ask-a-model section but members do post here too. But let's just move on and stay more to the topic.
Although on the topic of Jolene, that's an awesome new avatar... and slightly scary with the bat lol.

I should probably say something a little on topic. Some models won't do skype, others find it a useful way to make more tokens or at least interest people in spending tokens on them they might not have for a private (for whatever reason). If any member, not just HiGirlsRHot, has haggled with a model and never encountered a problem then that's fine, just beware that not all models like a member questioning their prices or trying to negotiate and you might be more likely to annoy the model.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

the only legitimate reason I can see a member trying to haggle with a model on her prices is that they're much more accustomed to the Streamate "make your own prices" kind of deal, so when they see a model on MFC having to charge $6 a minute by default, they naturally assume that the model would take $2 or 3 per minute on Skype or a random messenger because that's around the average price of most models on other sites.

Also, am i an asshole for asking if I can buy a Skype show with Paypal? I know that I'm not going to attempt to get my money back, as I'm not an asshole, and I've bought many shows with Paypal (as that's where my friends send me money), but is the default thought of someone asking to pay via Paypal is they're a scammer?

 

[LadyLuna]

the default thought of someone asking to pay via Paypal is they're a scammer?

My default thought is that the person looking to pay through paypal is looking to get a deal.

when I was a noob, a guy talked me into paypal saying that he could get a deal with me doing more money, but he wouldn't accept anything over $2 a minute. I realized that I was making $3 a minute through MFC private, and confronted him. He *still* tried to claim that it was better for me to take $2 a minute on paypal. In fact, there was no one willing to pay the same $6 a minute on paypal that they would've been paying on MFC, yet their claim was they wanted me to get 100% of the money. They always want it to be less money, and most of them want it to be less than the $3 a minute I'd get from an MFC private.

100% of $2/min < 50% of $6/min

 

[AllisonWilder]

Also, am i an asshole for asking if I can buy a Skype show with Paypal? I know that I'm not going to attempt to get my money back, as I'm not an asshole, and I've bought many shows with Paypal (as that's where my friends send me money), but is the default thought of someone asking to pay via Paypal is they're a scammer?

It's not at all that you're an asshole for asking, it's just that PayPal is not friendly towards adult transactions of any kind. Even if the member (in this case, you) never reported it to PayPal for a refund, there's always a risk with using it this way. There have been so many instances of models getting burned by using it or having their accounts frozen because PayPal got suspicious that most won't even deal with it.

I personally use PayPal with a very select few regulars, but it's not for Skype show purposes. Every time I do it, I'm still wary that I'll lose out on the funds because my account somehow gets frozen.

 

[Anonymous]

Also, am i an asshole for asking if I can buy a Skype show with Paypal? I know that I'm not going to attempt to get my money back, as I'm not an asshole, and I've bought many shows with Paypal (as that's where my friends send me money), but is the default thought of someone asking to pay via Paypal is they're a scammer?

If you ask about 'PayPal for Skype', and the model tells you no thanks because PayPal forbids adult transactions, the decent thing to do would be to say "Okay, I understand" and move on...not ask "Why not? I won't scam you, I promise!" To proceed asking a model to put her PP account at risk because, for whatever reason, you won't pay her in MFC tokens, is kind of selfish, in my opinion.

I know of a cam model who said that PP will occasionally look through user transactions and will contact people if they're curious about the nature of certain transactions. This model said that they contacted her, and she had to make up a quick lie about what all the PP deposits were that she kept getting.

There are even MFC models who have had Chip-Ins on their profiles, guys contributed towards them, and then PayPal had the account shut down, and the model got nada.

It's just not worth the risk, in my opinion, and luckily it looks like more and more models are realizing this and wising up to the whole 'No PayPal' thing.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Also, am i an asshole for asking if I can buy a Skype show with Paypal? I know that I'm not going to attempt to get my money back, as I'm not an asshole, and I've bought many shows with Paypal (as that's where my friends send me money), but is the default thought of someone asking to pay via Paypal is they're a scammer?

If you ask about 'PayPal for Skype', and the model tells you no thanks because PayPal forbids adult transactions, the decent thing to do would be to say "Okay, I understand" and move on...not ask "Why not? I won't scam you, I promise!" To proceed asking a model to put her PP account at risk because, for whatever reason, you won't pay her in MFC tokens, is kind of selfish, in my opinion.

I think it's just a simple, 'Hey, can I pay via PayPal?' that he meant and not that he proceeds to badger the model about why she won't take PayPal, etc.

 

[16_bit]

Also, am i an asshole for asking if I can buy a Skype show with Paypal? I know that I'm not going to attempt to get my money back, as I'm not an asshole, and I've bought many shows with Paypal (as that's where my friends send me money), but is the default thought of someone asking to pay via Paypal is they're a scammer?

Not at all. If you don't ask, you won't know if they do accept paypal (well, unless it's on their profile). With a model who doesn't know you, not matter how genuine you are, they don't know if you are lying your ass off or telling the truth so like the others have said, as long as you accept that they don't, you're no where near an asshole just for asking.

If you ask about 'PayPal for Skype', and the model tells you no thanks because PayPal forbids adult transactions, the decent thing to do would be to say "Okay, I understand" and move on...not ask "Why not? I won't scam you, I promise!" To proceed asking a model to put her PP account at risk because, for whatever reason, you won't pay her in MFC tokens, is kind of selfish, in my opinion.

There are even MFC models who have had Chip-Ins on their profiles, guys contributed towards them, and then PayPal had the account shut down, and the model got nada.

I know of a model who get her paypal account closed for using chip-in. The chip in was just for donations to school, nothing adult in the title but somehow they found out and stopped her account. It sucks that paypal is so against anything adult related but they do have the right to choose to do business that way.

 

[Anonymous]

I think it's just a simple, 'Hey, can I pay via PayPal?' that he meant and not that he proceeds to badger the model about why she won't take PayPal, etc.

Yeah, I can live with that if the guy asks just once.

 

[Anonymous]

I know of a model who get her paypal account closed for using chip-in. The chip in was just for donations to school, nothing adult in the title but somehow they found out and stopped her account.

Yeah, that's the thing. If you get so many PP transactions going on that PP decides to look into it (like if they find it suspicious or whatever), all that other stuff from the past may wind up getting you into trouble.