There is no universal rule. Different banks will have different rules. It's just a pain. Maybe advise the original poster in a PM with the name of the bank.
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There is no universal rule. Different banks will have different rules. It's just a pain. Maybe advise the original poster in a PM with the name of the bank.
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The Canadian banks that offer this option have already been stated multiple times.
But TD, RBC and BMO all have US counterparts and allow cross border banking. Not sure what you mean by it being a pain with different rules. I checked out all 3 banks and it was a super easy process at each.
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Yeah I think a lot of us have US bank accounts and I also saw a Euro and SA model saying they have one too. That's likely trickier but for Canadians it's a fairly simple thing to do.
Those are Canadian banks that are offering US banking services to their Canadian customers. If that solves her problem great. In that case the bank on both sides of the border is the same bank, so the Canadian bank is able to navigate the US regulations and control things between the two accounts to comply with regulations on both sides.
What I was referring to was a Canadian attempting to open a new account with a US based bank, or vice versa. They make that difficult now.
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If you are in Canada that is all you would need. You wouldn't need to open an account at a US bank with no Canadian counterpart because it would make transfers to your CAD account almost impossible .For example BMO in the US is called BMO Harris (so not the same bank at all) so it makes transfers between my accounts fairly simple. My us account follows US regulations and my Canadian bank follows Canadian regulations.
ePayments is the service I have been looking into for the Russian models who are all asking for help. From what I have seen ePayments serves US customers as well, and I note that Indiebill has integrated with them so that Indiebill payments can go out to an ePayments account.
From what little I can figure out so far, it looks like ePayments has a linked debit card, and the most economic way to spend the money would be to spend it through that card. A bank transfer from ePayments to a bank account is going to cost fees.
What concerns me about these payment services is that you are probably not protected if the underlying bank they use freezes accounts or goes out of business. So running a large balance in an ePayments account is probably not without risk, but maybe others have insights into that.
Here are some useful links I bookmarked regarding ePayments:
https://www.epayments.com/ewallet_tariffs.html
http://help.getindiebill.com/payout...ut-methods/epayments-wallet-euro-payouts-free
https://help.epayments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001904474-How-to-verify-my-account
https://help.epayments.com/hc/en-us/sections/115000913025-Transfer-from-the-e-Wallet
I want to stress I have not used ePayments yet. I am still at the research stage but it looks very legitimate and I am encouraged by the fact that Indiebill is using them.
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This condition put someone above laws?
I know i've earned money and someone don't allow me to dispose. I know there can be an arrangement, a solution not simply: no info bye
This happen for everything Jicky
and this is why lawyers are working on that 
I was wrong about US customers. Here is the page where ePayments specifies the countries they will not serve.
From that page:
"Please be aware that our services are unavailable for residents of Afghanistan, Angola, Burundi, the Central African Republic, Colombia, Cote d’Ivoire, Crimea, Cuba, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Eritrea, Iran, Iraq, Kosovo, Liberia, Libya, Myanmar, Palestine, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, United States of America*, Yemen, and Zimbabwe."
"*the services are unavailable both for residents and citizens of the country."
Nice to know that US regulation has put it on the same footing as Congo, Iran, Palestine, Somalia, Syria, and Zimbabwe....
Has anyone noticed First Covenant Bank when you look at your FCP account? First Covenant Bank is based in US and a member of FDIC. Payoneer/FCP may hold our funds in First Covenant, and then use Choicebank for loading the prepaid cards.
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I think, in this case "First Covenant Bank" is just a Prepaid MasterCard issuer. But all FCP cards are issued by "Choice Bank". I think it's just a mistake because "First Covenant Bank" is not mentioned on the general homepage when you are not logged in. The website is a copy of Payoneer and they forgot to remove some text. The help pages also contain a lot of references to Payoneer.
From MFC yesterday:
Payoneer? Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Reads as if payments to a credit card are not possible with this but only a transfer from Payoneer to a bank account. You can still call me surprised.
Payoneer? Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Reads as if payments to a credit card are not possible with this but only a transfer from Payoneer to a bank account. You can still call me surprised.
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Do you know anything about how to use global bank transfer now? I logged in to my fcp account and tried to change it to global bank transfer. It's not working, I get redirected to a page with the message "Dear customer, with regret...". Basically all pages on fcp redirect to that message. In a desperate attempt I tried to log in to payoneer with my fcp login, which of course doesn't work. So how can I change it or who can do that and how? Firstchoicepay? Payoneer?
Do you know anything about how to use global bank transfer now? I logged in to my fcp account and tried to change it to global bank transfer. It's not working, I get redirected to a page with the message "Dear customer, with regret...". Basically all pages on fcp redirect to that message. In a desperate attempt I tried to log in to payoneer with my fcp login, which of course doesn't work. So how can I change it or who can do that and how? Firstchoicepay? Payoneer?
@dark_mermaid , the wording "If you were using First Choice Pay to receive funds via Global Bank Transfer to your bank account, you now have an option to continue receiving funds to the same bank account again" makes me think this is only available to people who had the global bank transfer setup before FCP went down. I could be wrong, but this is how I interpret their message.
Yes, seems a likely explanation. On the other hand, why shouldn't it be possible to change that now? Looks like fcp and payoneer are still kinda connected with more than sharing the mother company.
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Payoneer was always still around. First choice pay was created for adult platforms to use and payoneer no longer did those types of payments but still existed. This is not new information. So I wouldn't count on that being the solution.
I could be wrong, but think this is the case. I received this message from MFC last week :
"As you know, First Choice Pay is no longer operating and transfers to the First Choice Pay ATM cards are no longer possible, but your Global Bank Transfer account has been migrated out and you can still receive payments through Payoneer for some period of time to the last bank account that you had linked.
If you want to continue to receive funds to the last bank account that you had linked to a Payoneer Global Bank Transfer account, you can log in to your Model Admin and click Change Payment Info and select Payoneer. Make sure to note the Payoneer ID that will be used and double check that it is the correct one that is linked to your bank account. Unfortunately at this time there is no way to change bank account details or create new Payoneer accounts.
If you haven't already, we ask that you please make an account with Paxum so you can receive payments more easily in the future."
I managed to sign into my Payoneer account could view transfers made from MFC since I started in February.
You do realize that not all models are Uk based, and that they don’t work on just one platform,I hope.
[QUOTE = "Chritian V, post: 933633, member: 45706"] È chiaro che cosmo è figlio di un payoneer ... giusto?
Dovrebbero trasferire i nostri fondi congelati dalla piattaforma FCC al cosmo con nuove carte emesse ...
È la mia opinione, ma penso che questa sia la cosa migliore che possano fare per noi ...
Spero che tutti voi con i fondi bloccati su FCP siano d'accordo con me ...
Grazie! [/ QUOTE]
H Cristian, I'm Luca from Colombia. Have you frozen money (on wallet of FCP) as me? I have enough UDS frozen there and this is very sad. Have you some news about? Ciao and good life! Luca
Dovrebbero trasferire i nostri fondi congelati dalla piattaforma FCC al cosmo con nuove carte emesse ...
È la mia opinione, ma penso che questa sia la cosa migliore che possano fare per noi ...
Spero che tutti voi con i fondi bloccati su FCP siano d'accordo con me ...
Grazie! [/ QUOTE]
H Cristian, I'm Luca from Colombia. Have you frozen money (on wallet of FCP) as me? I have enough UDS frozen there and this is very sad. Have you some news about? Ciao and good life! Luca
[QUOTE = "Dan Epstein, post: 934036, membro: 32802"] Ok, il marchio relativo a Intercash è autentico, tuttavia non ho informazioni su quali siti web stanno lavorando con loro, e no non sono il loro rappresentante. Non dovrebbero avere alcuna connessione con la banca e le questioni di forza maggiore che stiamo attraversando.
Questo significa solo che molte persone si preoccupano e le persone risolvono le cose passo dopo passo. Questo non è un post di riferimento, solo il mio desiderio di provare e aggiungere un po 'di conforto[/ QUOTE]
Dan, thanks a lot to listen me. I'm an old user of Payoneer before and of FCP now. I worked and recieved funds with these 2 companies for more than 10 years, I believe. Actually I've frozen in my wallet on FCP a not indifferent amount of USD and I'm here to receive from you a word, an hope to can solve all this sad and very bitter situation. Thanks for your efforts about it and good life to you. Luca (Colombia)
Questo significa solo che molte persone si preoccupano e le persone risolvono le cose passo dopo passo. Questo non è un post di riferimento, solo il mio desiderio di provare e aggiungere un po 'di conforto
[/ QUOTE]Dan, thanks a lot to listen me. I'm an old user of Payoneer before and of FCP now. I worked and recieved funds with these 2 companies for more than 10 years, I believe. Actually I've frozen in my wallet on FCP a not indifferent amount of USD and I'm here to receive from you a word, an hope to can solve all this sad and very bitter situation. Thanks for your efforts about it and good life to you. Luca (Colombia)
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Luca we are all in the same boat[QUOTE = "Dan Epstein, post: 934036, membro: 32802"] Ok, il marchio relativo a Intercash è autentico, tuttavia non ho informazioni su quali siti web stanno lavorando con loro, e no non sono il loro rappresentante. Non dovrebbero avere alcuna connessione con la banca e le questioni di forza maggiore che stiamo attraversando.
Questo significa solo che molte persone si preoccupano e le persone risolvono le cose passo dopo passo. Questo non è un post di riferimento, solo il mio desiderio di provare e aggiungere un po 'di conforto
Dan, thanks a lot to listen me. I'm an old user of Payoneer before and of FCP now. I worked and recieved funds with these 2 companies for more than 10 years, I believe. Actually I've frozen in my wallet on FCP a not indifferent amount of USD and I'm here to receive from you a word, an hope to can solve all this sad and very bitter situation. Thanks for your efforts about it and good life to you. Luca (Colombia)
Hope Dan can help you, but as I know he can't do nothing for now and he will be happy to help when he can
I decided to research this problem with adult payment services closing more deeply, and I do not like what I am finding. It is now my opinion that these closures may be the direct result of the passage of the FOSTA/SESTA legislation, which Trump signed into law on April 11, 2018. This may be the tip of a tidal wave that could shake many parts of the adult services business. This may be a topic that the models are already discussing extensively in their private forums. I have no way to see those conversations, and I apologize if I am duplicating that content.
FOSTA/SESTA is anti sex trafficking legislation. The problem is that - as usual - politicians twisted the language of the bill to completely confuse criminal acts of sex trafficking with consensual acts by individuals who have nothing to do with sex trafficking. I cannot find the language in the bill that passed into law on April 11, but the version that was being considered based on the original FOSTA bill made it illegal to operate “an interactive computer service” with “the intent to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person.” Someone who is more up on this issue, please update us on what is the relevant language in the bill that became law on April 11. I really hope they dumbed down this language.
The way the bill was supposed to be written was to attack people who force people - against their will - into prostitution. The language as written will be used by politicians and district attorneys to attack websites that enable all kinds of sex work simply because the site "facilitates" behavior that might only represent a small fraction of the website.
What also makes this bill a threat to the entire online sex industry is that it removes the Section 230 protections of the Communications Decency Act. As a result, Facebook, Tumblr, Twitter, and even a web hosting service, all become liable for criminal penalties if they host content that facilitates prostitution. Even though - technically - most sex work is not prostitution, many of these sites do not want to get into the business of reading your content and making legal judgments about what is and what is not allowed behavior. Many of them could resort to just wiping out adult content as a way to minimize their legal risks.
When the First Choice news came down and I read about the bank's liquidity problem, at first I thought it was an issue specific to the bank. What triggered all of my suspicion and research was the news that ePayments - which does not use any bank to issue its own Mastercards - suddenly stopped issuing cards and said it was reviewing its policies. Then I read that ePayments was no longer accepting wire transfers denominated in US Dollars. That was a clue to me that ePayments is distancing itself from the US market and does not want to be subject to US regulation. Now that I see FOSTA/SESTA is law, it all becomes clearer what is going on here. This is all the start of a big squeeze on every part of the online sex industry.
This is a truly depressing moment for free speech. I really did not believe they were going to pass this thing into law, and I underestimated the whole situation.
FOSTA/SESTA is anti sex trafficking legislation. The problem is that - as usual - politicians twisted the language of the bill to completely confuse criminal acts of sex trafficking with consensual acts by individuals who have nothing to do with sex trafficking. I cannot find the language in the bill that passed into law on April 11, but the version that was being considered based on the original FOSTA bill made it illegal to operate “an interactive computer service” with “the intent to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person.” Someone who is more up on this issue, please update us on what is the relevant language in the bill that became law on April 11. I really hope they dumbed down this language.
The way the bill was supposed to be written was to attack people who force people - against their will - into prostitution. The language as written will be used by politicians and district attorneys to attack websites that enable all kinds of sex work simply because the site "facilitates" behavior that might only represent a small fraction of the website.
What also makes this bill a threat to the entire online sex industry is that it removes the Section 230 protections of the Communications Decency Act. As a result, Facebook, Tumblr, Twitter, and even a web hosting service, all become liable for criminal penalties if they host content that facilitates prostitution. Even though - technically - most sex work is not prostitution, many of these sites do not want to get into the business of reading your content and making legal judgments about what is and what is not allowed behavior. Many of them could resort to just wiping out adult content as a way to minimize their legal risks.
When the First Choice news came down and I read about the bank's liquidity problem, at first I thought it was an issue specific to the bank. What triggered all of my suspicion and research was the news that ePayments - which does not use any bank to issue its own Mastercards - suddenly stopped issuing cards and said it was reviewing its policies. Then I read that ePayments was no longer accepting wire transfers denominated in US Dollars. That was a clue to me that ePayments is distancing itself from the US market and does not want to be subject to US regulation. Now that I see FOSTA/SESTA is law, it all becomes clearer what is going on here. This is all the start of a big squeeze on every part of the online sex industry.
This is a truly depressing moment for free speech. I really did not believe they were going to pass this thing into law, and I underestimated the whole situation.
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As many russians do have big money in the Belize, it might also be a blow towards Russia in this "war on terror" every brainwashed sheeple believes in...can't believe how hypocrite Trump is, after so many sex scandals he had, now posing as a monk...
Firstchoice announced me again very clear that the funds frozen in the virtual ballance are in their hands and not on Choice Bank... so I guess we should give Choice a rest and not think again and again when will they resume their services... it seems that doesn't no longer count...
(phone and email confirmation of this)
(phone and email confirmation of this)
Indeed, i got the same answer.. The FCP told me that Choice Bank liqudity doesnt affect the funds in the FCP , the bank was the one that transferred the funds and they try to find a third part to transfer the funds over again. Also assured me that the funds are 110% safe and that we will recive them ,because they are with FCP and not with Choice Bank.
Luca we are all in the same boat
Hope Dan can help you, but as I know he can't do nothing for now and he will be happy to help when he can
Thanks a lot for your reply....Good luck to you, and good week! Luca
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Hello girls and guys, some official news from my daily meeting with FCP support:
... i don't wanna comment anything negative or positive until a real solution. But support words are good
... i don't wanna comment anything negative or positive until a real solution. But support words are good
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