It always seems so weird to me that people make a huge deal about undocumented folks. Like who wouldn't cross some imaginary line if they thought it would make their family safer or more prosperous? The border is a man made divide on a spinning rock that's been here longer than us and will be here long after we're gone. Wall or no, it doesn't mean much. Even if they don't pay income taxes, existing in America entails paying tons of tax. They are paying in, and possibly at high percentages given how underpaid they can be. If someone's a violent criminal, totally send them back. Otherwise, let people live. Make immigration less expensive. Stop scapegoating the Mexicans. A wall isn't helping anyone or making a fake line any more real to people who are suffering. And spouting off about "making Mexico pay for it" in front of the rest of the world is total idiocy and ego masturbation that nothing good can come from.
Of course, we could always go to plan B and turn into such a shit country that our neighbors to the South no longer want to cross the border. It seems like that's the direction we're choosing. Not well thought through.
Have you ever asked for a visa to visit another country? Most Americans have never done it. So I want to explain what the process is like. There are variations in it depending on the country of origin, but in order to get a visa for the US for the first time you have to go through a process very similar to what a camgirl does when they do a date raffle.
What we would recommend a girl do who want to do a date raffle? We would tell them to ask the winner for 2 different IDs, do a background check, and a Skype interview to see that the person is actually who he says he is and that he is sane in the head. They do the same process at embassies: you have to give them information about you including your passport and government issued ID, give them a letter from the police with your criminal record, and go through an interview where they ask you to explain what the purpose of your visit will be. You also have to pay about $100 non-refundable which would be like the raffle ticket price for the camgirl. And this process is done for the exact same reason a camgirl would do these things: to prove that you are not a threat, that you will not harm the other person or do bad things in the country and to prove that you are not a broke and wont be a burden.
When someone crosses the border illegally they skip this process so you have no idea who is going in, who they are, what is their intention in the US, if they can sustain themselves or not, or if they have a 5 page long rap sheet. You don't know who they are. Maybe it is a good person full of hope but kinda cooky who dislikes rules and that is why she skipped the legal procedure. Maybe it is a sex offender escaping the law from his country of origin who wants to rape children. Maybe the goal for illegal immigrant #1 is to feed his family, maybe the goal for illegal immigrant #2 is to sell meth for his drug cartel. The US doesn't know. And there is a risk involved for you and your children when people are pouring in that you have no idea who they are. Crossing a border is a huge red flag. If they don't want to submit to the process in most cases is because they know they will not pass because they have been charged for crimes or they wont pass the interview. All illegal immigrants are showing a basic lack of self respect for the American way of life and the rule of law when they choose to cross the border and give the finger to due process and they are also pissing on all the people who every day go through the 50 hoops to do things legally and paid the price.
You would never tell a camgirl to just meet any user randomly. Or worse yet, to embrace and have a cup of coffee with a user who found out her address and showed up at her doorstep without being invited. Because showing up at her door step with no invitation is a huge red flag. Maybe he is a decent guy, maybe all he wanted was to tell her she is awesome and to have a shot at courting her and he would be a terrific boyfriend. But maybe he is a rapist or an ax murderer or an insane stalker and she shouldn't risk her safety just to be "nice".
Regarding borders, they aren't imaginary lines. Sure, the planet is one giant rock and maybe if everything we had was trees and clay we could consider lines arbitrary. But people do not cross a border just to experience the beautiful scenery of nature from the other side. People cross a border to be on the other side because there is a specific country on that side of the border, with a specific society with its own institutions, life conditions and especially benefits, all things that they built for themselves and their families. It takes a lot of work to build a country and it belongs to the people who build it. When someone crosses the border they want to take advantage of the benefits of living on the country that begins at that border without having to pay their dues to society. They do not abide by the law, they do not contribute to that society, they often do not care to learn the language, the culture or the customs, and they often dont make a single effort to assimilate. Likewise, once shit gets better at home or they figure out a way to move to a country that gives them better welfare options they will be gone without contributing their part. They have no roots or ties to the country they are actually invading and have no qualms about making things just a little bit shittier for struggling american citizens like themselves.
America has a responsibility to take care of its own poor people and defend them from its own criminals, Mexico should take care of theirs. And if all the immigrants truly want is better life conditions and to provide for their families maybe they should figure out a way to make Mexico better, not invade a country that isn't theirs.
Edit so I dont DP:
@fandango asked me if I wanted to abolish minimum wage. Lol, no. I am no libertarian. But I do understand that minimum wage and open borders dont mix well together. You have to choose one or the other.
