Have members ever married a model?

[Pant222]

... i feel i should also add

When I got with my Master - after getting to know him on MFC ... I pursued him. He never pushed for a meet up, personal info or anything else. I was falling hard... he had told me one time that if I needed a couch .. to get out of the situation i was in and get my 'head straight' he was more than happy to have me. I don't think he ever expected me to take him up on it and he ALMOST said no when I did. He was committed to being a 'single' guy for the rest of his life after some horrid break ups.

If a camgirl is going to fall for a members, she will come to YOU - it won't happen if you chase her. The most you can do is let her know you're 'open'. And expect nothing.

Exactly, and that is basically what happened here in my situation. I totally agree with what you just said, very well written.

 

[Trav]

If they met them in the course of their cam job where they were the recipient of that sharing, don't you find it a bit hypocritical of them to expect her to give up her job and something she might actually be enjoying? If she wants to give up being a camgirl or sexworker because SHE wanted to and not because the man was not longer comfortable with it because they are together, that I can understand.

This is very similar to the men that make their girlfriends cut off all contact with her male friends once they are in a relationship. What is missing from these relationships is the most important thing in a relationship. Trust.

Generally, no, I don't think that's a hypocritical request if the girl was single while she was camming.

Like I said, it's a job that requires sharing more of yourself than maybe any other job, sexually and otherwise. I don't really agree with your comparison. In my opinion, it would be closer to a man needing his girlfriend to cut off having other sexual relationships once they were together. Obviously, there's a difference between actual sex and what cam girls do, but it's certainly much less of a difference than camming and just having normal male friends. I'm also not sure it's really trust, as much as it is that camming(or any job in the sex industry) would lessen the exclusive intimacy that most normal relationships have.

It's something that would have to be discussed early on if any relationship started to form, and the girl is free to say no, she won't give it up, but I don't really think there's anything abnormal or wrong with a guy who would need that or ask for that. I actually think the guy that would be totally OK with it is the abnormal guy. Some people are saying the guy that would is a particularly jealous or insecure guy, but I don't really see that.

I see where you're coming from, but I don't agree at all.

Being okay with your partner being a sex worker doesn't seem abnormal to me.

My work has never had any effect on my intimate life, although perhaps that's because my relationship is also 'abnormal'.

And I think therein lies the rift between our points of view.

The spectrum of intimate relationships in the world is so wide-ranging that no one can talk in absolutes. But I think if you want to talk about something realistically, the conversation has to take place in the gray area, not within either extreme.

If the man is not jealous nor insecure, why doesn't he want his girlfriend to be a sex worker? If the job is having an effect on her love life, I can see that, but that holds true for any profession. Saying that he just wants her all to himself is great - that's because he's insecure and jealous, not because he's being "protective" or "loving".

Again, I don't think needing a certain degree of exclusivity in aspects of a relationship is a sign of jealousy or insecurity(which in my mind means an overabundance of either of those things). It may not be true in your particular case, but I think most people would not be ok with their partner having sex with other individuals. That doesn't make them jealous. It makes them normal.

Any man who doesn't want his girlfriend to cam should also be okay with never viewing pornography again. After all, when he watches a woman in a pornographic film, the fact that he's masturbating "with" her must degrade his sex and intimacy quite a bit.

Eh, I disagree. The two things are vastly different. For men there is exactly 0 intimacy involved in the viewing of pornography unless they have an unhealthy addiction to it. I don't know about other people, but my porn doesn't talk back to me, and no matter how much I try, the women on-screen never respond when I cry "spread bobs bb!"

 

[skiphop90]

Issues begin when the model stops giving her partner the attention he needs. That has nothing to do with how many random dudes see her twat, only how much time she spends online making money.

Nail and fucking head.

 

[Evvie]

I don't particularly know if marriage has much to do with it - many of the models here on this forum are married to very supportive husbands.

Some more supportave than others.

Oh darn, two hundred ninety six words and I spelled one wrong.

Which is funny, because "supportave" isn't a word in the English language.

Did you mean to correct something else? Or did I pass?

Again, I don't think needing a certain degree of exclusivity in aspects of a relationship is a sign of jealousy or insecurity(which in my mind means an overabundance of either of those things). It may not be true in your particular case, but I think most people would not be ok with their partner having sex with other individuals. That doesn't make them jealous. It makes them normal.

I do not think exclusive relationships are more normal than inclusive relationships, any more than being a Christian is normal and being a Mormon is abnormal. They are two different things, one is not more correct than the other.

Eh, I disagree. The two things are vastly different. For men there is exactly 0 intimacy involved in the viewing of pornography unless they have an unhealthy addiction to it. I don't know about other people, but my porn doesn't talk back to me, and no matter how much I try, the women on-screen never respond when I cry "spread bobs bb!"

I speak not for every cam model, but I think you might be vastly overestimating the amount of intense love and yearning we feel for every member in our 200+ count room while we're doing public shows.

 

[TheNightman]

Oh darn, two hundred ninety six words and I spelled one wrong.

Which is funny, because "supportave" isn't a word in the English language.

Did you mean to correct something else? Or did I pass?

I was referencing 'supportave husband'. :-D

You didn't spell anything incorrectly, and I agreed with your entire post.

 

[Pant222]

I think that if their camming job is really "just a job" or "work" as so many people have said, then it should not be a problem at all.

If it's "just a job" and she's in a position where she does not have to work, then maybe it's a good solution for her to quit camming for the guy. But if she's in a position where she does need to make money, and she loves camming, and working from home is the best option for her, then giving up camming would be a huge sacrifice.

Its not a matter of quitting camming "for the guy", its a matter of being able to do what you want. If the girl is camming because its a job when there was nothing else she was able to do, then that could be because of the local economic situation where she lives. But when there is a choice and it is what she wants, then sure, by all means do whatever she wants. And if its what she is being offered, more power to her. No one should ever force someone to do something they don't want to do, but If the girl can be offered a better life by being in the relationship and it is her choice, then more power to her for being able to make that choice and for it being the right one.

 

[Cassidy Nicole]

Eh, I disagree. The two things are vastly different. For men there is exactly 0 intimacy involved in the viewing of pornography unless they have an unhealthy addiction to it. I don't know about other people, but my porn doesn't talk back to me, and no matter how much I try, the women on-screen never respond when I cry "spread bobs bb!"

I speak not for every cam model, but I think you might be vastly overestimating the amount of intense love and yearning we feel for every member in our 200+ count room while we're doing public shows.

This x100000000000000000000000000.

 

[Trav]

Again, I don't think needing a certain degree of exclusivity in aspects of a relationship is a sign of jealousy or insecurity(which in my mind means an overabundance of either of those things). It may not be true in your particular case, but I think most people would not be ok with their partner having sex with other individuals. That doesn't make them jealous. It makes them normal.

I do not think exclusive relationships are more normal than inclusive relationships, any more than being a Christian is normal and being a Mormon is abnormal. They are two different things, one is not more correct than the other.

Being "normal" and being "more correct" are different things. I don't think an open relationship is any less correct than a monogamous one, that's for the people involved to decide, but I do think one is much more normal than the other.

Eh, I disagree. The two things are vastly different. For men there is exactly 0 intimacy involved in the viewing of pornography unless they have an unhealthy addiction to it. I don't know about other people, but my porn doesn't talk back to me, and no matter how much I try, the women on-screen never respond when I cry "spread bobs bb!"

I speak not for every cam model, but I think you might be vastly overestimating the amount of intense love and yearning we feel for every member in our 200+ count room while we're doing public shows.

I'd imagine virtually none, so... I doubt it.

 

[TheNightman]

I think there may be a quoting issue. :-D

I didn't say any of these things!!

 

[Pant222]

Oh I also wanted to add this but I came too late to edit my post:

I knew of a girl who did meet a guy off a cam site, she ended up moving away from all her family and support system within 2 months after meeting this guy.. Anyways, after she moved he INSISTED that she quit camming and get a regular job. I don't understand how the job was certainly fine when he was cruising the interwebs on cam sites trying to get his nut off but not okay when you actually "know" the girl... Seems kinda odd to me..

I think it basically depends on where a person is in life. I was born naked but I wouldn't go to work that way. Well... maybe if I could ok. I wouldn't go to eat in a restaurant that way....wait..maybe I would. ok ok.. I was born naked but I wouldn't go shopping that way. Wait... maybe if I could.
But all kidding aside, the point is simply that there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with caming. But what was fine at one point in life isn't always (depending on what it is) in other times of life. What was ok to share at one point in life isn't always ok at other times of life when it's time to be committed to only that person and not anyone else. Again, nothing wrong with it and I think it's healthy and a great thing but not when someone makes a promise in marriage to only be with the one and only person they want to marry (unless they want the marriage to be open and not exclusive to just one person). Either way is fine, there is nothing wrong with either choice. It just all comes down to what a person's personal definition of a marriage should be. It's all 'marriage' but some people have different definitions of what marriage is, so, each to their own. The beautify of choice! But as far as that guy goes, maybe they should have talked about what they both wanted long long long before she decided to up and leave her family and support system. I know when I go eat in a restaurant, I know exactly what the waiter will bring me long before the cook starts to make it lol.

I don't particularly know if marriage has much to do with it - many of the models here on this forum are married to very supportive husbands.

I think some people have more old-world views of intimacy and place much more importance on the sight of the human body than others. When I visit my Christian family, I am often shocked at how much shame they attribute to the physical form. Much in the same vein, I think some people place huge amounts of importance that the female's body should never be viewed but by the man that currently claims her, or that relationships are better off monogamous, or that one party will always be unhappy when the other is allowed to flash their junk at strangers.

I don't think a woman's body is some mythical sacred object borne by angels to grace the eyes of her soul mate husband.

Tits are flesh and mostly fat. They get in the way a lot. They're nice to look at. They're not holy, sacrosanct relics for only the eyes of her Boyfriend and God.

Issues begin when the model stops giving her partner the attention he needs. That has nothing to do with how many random dudes see her twat, only how much time she spends online making money.

I do not see a marriage where one partner is a sex worker as "open" or "nonexclusive." Camming is her job, she doesn't find boyfriends there. And, as I attribute neither gestalt sanctity nor shame to the female body, the mere fact that people look at it does not make that wife in an open relationship. Open relationships are where you date people and fuck them, not when you take pictures of your ass and post them on Instagram.

Then I guess its ok just as long as your partner isn't becoming actually interested in them? But at what point does interest start to happen? If its not when a cam girl is totally naked sharing her personality and wonderful body and showing what wonderful things she can do with it and how it can literally turn the guy on with just a simply smile, where does the interest in the girl begin? I guess it has to start with the attraction to the cam girl. But wouldn't that also mean the attraction is there from the very beginning since everything about her is attractive? Just my :twocents-02cents: but I think a lot of guys will agree with that. Not because we are insecure or jealous or anything at all, but because we are guys and we know how guys think. And, having said that, if we know best about how a guy thinks then it seems logical that we would be the most suited in knowing how the cam girl is being seen by the guys regardless of what she is told by the guy. Guys know guys, girls know girls, we all do because we are that which we know most about.

 

[Cassidy Nicole]

Can't a job just be a job?! I mean if you are working a server job, do you care about every person you serve during the course of a shift? I don't think so.


At the end of the day, this is an exchange of service.

"Yall mind your business, I mind my business. I do what I gotta do, you do what you gotta do. As long as I give you 12 tracks of that real shit, you give my $12 and we are even. I don't gotta be a role model. I don't gotta hold your hand. I don't gotta do shit." - Tupac.

 

[skiphop90]

Can't a job just be a job?! I mean if you are working a server job, do you care about every person you serve during the course of a shift? I don't think so.


At the end of the day, this is an exchange of service.

"Yall mind your business, I mind my business. I do what I gotta do, you do what you gotta do. As long as I give you 12 tracks of that real shit, you give my $12 and we are even. I don't gotta be a role model. I don't gotta hold your hand. I don't gotta do shit." - Tupac.

No, because not all cam models work in the same way. I know many models on here consider some of their regulars to be friends.

 

[Swirl]

Oh I also wanted to add this but I came too late to edit my post:

I knew of a girl who did meet a guy off a cam site, she ended up moving away from all her family and support system within 2 months after meeting this guy.. Anyways, after she moved he INSISTED that she quit camming and get a regular job. I don't understand how the job was certainly fine when he was cruising the interwebs on cam sites trying to get his nut off but not okay when you actually "know" the girl... Seems kinda odd to me..

I think it basically depends on where a person is in life. I was born naked but I wouldn't go to work that way. Well... maybe if I could ok. I wouldn't go to eat in a restaurant that way....wait..maybe I would. ok ok.. I was born naked but I wouldn't go shopping that way. Wait... maybe if I could.
But all kidding aside, the point is simply that there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with caming. But what was fine at one point in life isn't always (depending on what it is) in other times of life. What was ok to share at one point in life isn't always ok at other times of life when it's time to be committed to only that person and not anyone else. Again, nothing wrong with it and I think it's healthy and a great thing but not when someone makes a promise in marriage to only be with the one and only person they want to marry (unless they want the marriage to be open and not exclusive to just one person). Either way is fine, there is nothing wrong with either choice. It just all comes down to what a person's personal definition of a marriage should be. It's all 'marriage' but some people have different definitions of what marriage is, so, each to their own. The beautify of choice! But as far as that guy goes, maybe they should have talked about what they both wanted long long long before she decided to up and leave her family and support system. I know when I go eat in a restaurant, I know exactly what the waiter will bring me long before the cook starts to make it lol.

I don't particularly know if marriage has much to do with it - many of the models here on this forum are married to very supportive husbands.

I think some people have more old-world views of intimacy and place much more importance on the sight of the human body than others. When I visit my Christian family, I am often shocked at how much shame they attribute to the physical form. Much in the same vein, I think some people place huge amounts of importance that the female's body should never be viewed but by the man that currently claims her, or that relationships are better off monogamous, or that one party will always be unhappy when the other is allowed to flash their junk at strangers.

I don't think a woman's body is some mythical sacred object borne by angels to grace the eyes of her soul mate husband.

Tits are flesh and mostly fat. They get in the way a lot. They're nice to look at. They're not holy, sacrosanct relics for only the eyes of her Boyfriend and God.

Issues begin when the model stops giving her partner the attention he needs. That has nothing to do with how many random dudes see her twat, only how much time she spends online making money.

I do not see a marriage where one partner is a sex worker as "open" or "nonexclusive." Camming is her job, she doesn't find boyfriends there. And, as I attribute neither gestalt sanctity nor shame to the female body, the mere fact that people look at it does not make that wife in an open relationship. Open relationships are where you date people and fuck them, not when you take pictures of your ass and post them on Instagram.

Damn Evvie,

Have you written any books? If so, I'd like to read one.

 

[Littlegringo]

Then I guess its ok just as long as your partner isn't becoming actually interested in them? But at what point does interest start to happen? If its not when a cam girl is totally naked sharing her personality and wonderful body and showing what wonderful things she can do with it and how it can literally turn the guy on with just a simply smile, where does the interest in the girl begin? I guess it has to start with the attraction to the cam girl. But wouldn't that also mean the attraction is there from the very beginning since everything about her is attractive?

I do find it difficult to feel that you're driving on the same highway as everyone else...

Basically, you just described the problem. How a guy can become too attracted and infatuated with a cam girl way too quickly.
Every guy is not like that. I can't stress that enough. Every guy does not look at a girl smiling at him (and 200 other guys at the same time) and think "OMG, she wants me, ME!" That isn't healthy, it's an obsession - it's infatuation. You feel it's a love affair. All I can say is be prepared, be very prepared for reality to not be what you think it will be.

 

[Evvie]

I think there may be a quoting issue. :-D

I didn't say any of these things!!

I re-read that just now and thought it wasn't you who said it... Unsure of how that mix-up happened but I agree that the quotes be haunted.

Again, I don't think needing a certain degree of exclusivity in aspects of a relationship is a sign of jealousy or insecurity(which in my mind means an overabundance of either of those things). It may not be true in your particular case, but I think most people would not be ok with their partner having sex with other individuals. That doesn't make them jealous. It makes them normal.

I do not think exclusive relationships are more normal than inclusive relationships, any more than being a Christian is normal and being a Mormon is abnormal. They are two different things, one is not more correct than the other.

Being "normal" and being "more correct" are different things. I don't think an open relationship is any less correct than a monogamous one, that's for the people involved to decide, but I do think one is much more normal than the other.

Having done a mild amount of research on the subject, I've found most people's definition of monogamous and what that entails to vary as widely as people's opinions on how soon you should start exploring your options after a homoerotic dream.

It is simple enough to say "two people together without a third party," but as this thread has proven, the answer is rarely that simple. For some people, that third party is other men and women who will engage in sex; for others, men and women you become emotionally attached to; for other people the third party is pornography, and so on.

I have met a couple at a swinger's party who just got done fucking a bunch of strangers, yet insisted they were purely monogamous and not in an open relationship.

And then, when you get in to other subcultures (like the kink, for example) what happens if you're with one partner, but do a sexual scene with another partner? Are you monogamous? Are you in an open relationship? Is it possible to play with someone/cam for someone, yet still remain only interested in your primary partner?

Monogamy in many ways is so diluted and abstract that I'd wager many people's definitions of monogamy exclude a vast number of monogamous couples. I also know of a few couples who label themselves polyamorous who look far more like monogamists, to the point where neither partner is willing to have a third in their relationship.

I in no way disagree that many perfectly cool guys have their issues with camming at times. Even if you're fine with something doesn't mean you don't want to bitch at it when you're upset, and I think many fellows who are uncomfortable with having a sex worker for a partner are primarily uneducated about how the business works (as far as camming goes). Jobs can get in the way of any relationship; if my sister only talked to her new fiance about how amazing her job serving coffee is, and day-in and day-out she raved about how great her cute customers tipped, that's because my sister is an idiot, not because being a barista is a job that sucks up her soul. I don't let camming invade on my personal life more than it should, just as I wouldn't let any other job take over my personal life. It has absolutely nothing to do with my relationship being unusual or my partner being abnormal; this is my job, and that is my relationship. They are two separate things. I am not going to fill up my relationship quota through my job.

Eh, I disagree. The two things are vastly different. For men there is exactly 0 intimacy involved in the viewing of pornography unless they have an unhealthy addiction to it. I don't know about other people, but my porn doesn't talk back to me, and no matter how much I try, the women on-screen never respond when I cry "spread bobs bb!"

I speak not for every cam model, but I think you might be vastly overestimating the amount of intense love and yearning we feel for every member in our 200+ count room while we're doing public shows.

I'd imagine virtually none, so... I doubt it.

Then the point stands: Cam models may very well have no more sexual connection with many of the members on their cam site than do men who watch pornography have a connection with those actresses.

No, because not all cam models work in the same way. I know many models on here consider some of their regulars to be friends.

Naturally; the example I used was to point out specifically that in many situations, there is no connection (a la a huge room in a public show), although when it comes to regulars, I consider many to be my friends. However, they are that - friends, not potential romantic partners. When I have wet dreams, they're about my man fucking me from behind, not SoTxBob (sorry, Bob. Had to use a name.)

I do however agree that there are likely some models who give a fuck about anyone in their room, and other models who care quite a bit about a lot of members.

 

[SoTxBob]

:icon-cry: "I has a sads now Evvie BB"... :crybaby:


:lol:

 

[Pant222]

What a can of worms I've opened up starting this post from a very simple and innocent question. All in all, I think much of this basically depends on what your personal definitions are and what foundation they are built upon. Having said that, that is not to say that one is better than the other, they are just different. When we embrace the diversity of our lives, beautiful things can and often do happen but when (as history has shown time and time again) one truly feels that their own views are the only correct ones there should be, often they are disappointed and no good comes from it. But I feel that one thing can be agreed on in this forum and that is we are all beautiful creatures with our own unique gifts. We are the only person like us anywhere in the world and each of us has a very unique purpose in this life. When we accept this view and base it on true love and appreciation, beautiful things can and do happen.
Now, lets get naked and have a group hug!!

 

[Anonymous]

Its not a matter of quitting camming "for the guy", its a matter of being able to do what you want. If the girl is camming because its a job when there was nothing else she was able to do, then that could be because of the local economic situation where she lives. But when there is a choice and it is what she wants, then sure, by all means do whatever she wants. And if its what she is being offered, more power to her. No one should ever force someone to do something they don't want to do, but If the girl can be offered a better life by being in the relationship and it is her choice, then more power to her for being able to make that choice and for it being the right one.

It sounds to me like we're talking about quitting camming for/because of the guy.

And I think you've pretty much just said what most of us have been saying throughout this thread.

Wow, did we really just spend 5 pages going back and forth about falling in love and marrying models? LOL.

 

[Pant222]

Its not a matter of quitting camming "for the guy", its a matter of being able to do what you want. If the girl is camming because its a job when there was nothing else she was able to do, then that could be because of the local economic situation where she lives. But when there is a choice and it is what she wants, then sure, by all means do whatever she wants. And if its what she is being offered, more power to her. No one should ever force someone to do something they don't want to do, but If the girl can be offered a better life by being in the relationship and it is her choice, then more power to her for being able to make that choice and for it being the right one.

It sounds to me like we're talking about quitting camming for/because of the guy.

And I think you've pretty much just said what most of us have been saying throughout this thread.

Wow, did we really just spend 5 pages going back and forth about falling in love and marrying models? LOL.

I think that's because without love, there is no life.

 

[Evvie]

I for the most part do get pretty worried when guys start talking about their love for models.

I get angry when it becomes suggested that only an abnormal partner in an irregular relationship is okay with the woman being a webcam model. I get enough shit in my day to day life about how I live, and I really don't want to hear that my partner is fucked in the head because he is fine with my work.

As expressed by Pant, there's nothing wrong with changing jobs or careers over the course of a lady's life, and I certainly do not intend to whore it up until I retire at 65; however, there is a huge difference between "I find that in this time in my life, I would benefit from working elsewhere" and "I pissed on your leg, so put your tits away, whore. Jesus, I can't believe you're okay with showing other men your body -- oh, no, sweetie! I'm okay with sex work, I -- oh, no, I'm not jealous or insecure, I just don't understand why a woman who has a perfectly good man would ever be interested in a job where other men get to see her naked. Well no, I don't think the human body is shameful, no, I'm not a Christian... I just don't want people to see what's mine."

If a man isn't jealous or insecure, he's being possessive - like how my brother gets possessive over his car, or my friend gets possessive over her nail polish collection: You are possessive over your property, and if men want to make their model girlfriends dehumanized, objectified property, well, that's up to them I suppose.



I have heard a lot of models express their upset, confusion, and frustration when a seemingly cool member suddenly falls in love with them overnight and begins to send her poetry, talk about how their life is nothing without her, and now and then refuse to tip her because it would sully their "love".

I have also heard a lot of stories where members express their anger, hurt, and confusion when a seemingly awesome model whom he was infatuated or in love with turned out to be milking him for money.

I have never heard a story (excepting in Miss_Lollipop's case) where a model married a member because she truly and deeply loved him.

This leads me to believe that in the vast majority of cases (close enough to 100% as to render decimals pointless [PUN ALERT]) models are not showing interest in a member because she loves him, and members are almost always mistaken when they believe a model interested in them romantically.

I am sure in some cases it is possible, but moving from the realm of online flirting to shifting the entire course of one's life to fulfill that dream is something else altogether.

 

[AllisonWilder]

models are not showing interest in a member because she loves him, and members are almost always mistaken when they believe a model interested in them romantically.

This. :thumbleft:



I just want to add that I was in a perfectly happy monogamous relationship when I started camming. It didn't hurt my relationship in the slightest because he knew that while there were many men that were seeing me naked and seeing me orgasm and chatting with me, he knew that they weren't getting all of me. He was the one that was seeing me in my jammies eating Chinese food on the couch with our family and laughing at re-runs. Sure, he was unsure of camming when I brought it up, but after I explained how I felt about it and showed him what it looked like on my side and how it worked, he was comfortable with it. Why? Because when I turned off that camera and came out of my cam room, he knew that I was still his girlfriend and nothing that happened in that cam room that day or any day prior or any future day would change that.

I think camming is a great thing and those guys that just don't understand why their girl would want to do it, just can't open their minds to it. I have never fallen in love with a member, it has never had an impact on my sexual appetite or intimacy with a partner. If anything, camming has taught me more about my body and how it works than I probably ever would have learned. If not for camming, I would still be a shy girl who only wants to have sex with the lights off and my shirt around my waist to hide my flaws. I can honestly say that any partner from here on out is reaping the benefits of my camming career as I'm now much more sexually adventurous and willing.

 

[Pant222]

models are not showing interest in a member because she loves him, and members are almost always mistaken when they believe a model interested in them romantically.

This. :thumbleft:



I just want to add that I was in a perfectly happy monogamous relationship when I started camming. It didn't hurt my relationship in the slightest because he knew that while there were many men that were seeing me naked and seeing me orgasm and chatting with me, he knew that they weren't getting all of me. He was the one that was seeing me in my jammies eating Chinese food on the couch with our family and laughing at re-runs. Sure, he was unsure of camming when I brought it up, but after I explained how I felt about it and showed him what it looked like on my side and how it worked, he was comfortable with it. Why? Because when I turned off that camera and came out of my cam room, he knew that I was still his girlfriend and nothing that happened in that cam room that day or any day prior or any future day would change that.

I think camming is a great thing and those guys that just don't understand why their girl would want to do it, just can't open their minds to it. I have never fallen in love with a member, it has never had an impact on my sexual appetite or intimacy with a partner. If anything, camming has taught me more about my body and how it works than I probably ever would have learned. If not for camming, I would still be a shy girl who only wants to have sex with the lights off and my shirt around my waist to hide my flaws. I can honestly say that any partner from here on out is reaping the benefits of my camming career as I'm now much more sexually adventurous and willing.

It always makes me feel good hearing stories like this because some models I know here that are friends of mine absolutely hate it because it makes them feel bad in the way that many of the guys see them only as sex toys or objects, or the rude way they're treated many times. And they are wonderful beautiful girls with very good self esteem. They just don't think its right to be looked down on or treated the way they feel that they are, but, they do it because where they are in life requires they do things they normally would not do to make money. They do make tips and their scores are fair, but they just feel they have to lower their own personal standards to get through it sometimes. But they are troupers and put on a smile that hides many things. Now, I only say this to say things I have personally seen around MFC by various friends of mine (not all but some) and I know I'm going to get attacked but these are the realities, not meant to offend anyone and if I did, I'm truly sorry. But the fact of the matter is that there are girls that cam that do it because that was the only thing they could find to make good quick money and sometimes life situations makes you do things you normally would not do. What about them? I think it is wonderful for girls to cam, especially when they love it and it helps them feel great about themselves, that is awesome and I support that 100%. But what about the ones that really do not like it but feel they can't do anything else that brings in the same kind of money for where they are in life? All I've heard so far is how great it is and that is WONDERFUL, but we all know there are girls out there that hate it but do it anyway. I can understand why they would not want to expose (pardon the pun LOL) who they are here and admit to such a thing because no one ever wants to admit they do something they hate (like guys don't want to admit they bought a bad car) but we all know or can at least easily understand that many girls are out there that are not happy doing this type of work but they do it anyway, and much of the work they do (like the studio models that are heavily controlled by bad bosses in some areas) is not their free choice once they're in front of the cam. I've seen times when a girl literally has a break down or snaps from the stress and goes postal for no apparent reason at all. I just wish their side of things was shared more and that all models were as happy as the ones I see here in this forum. But, its not a perfect world sometimes and life is not always fair. And I'm not being sarcastic or anything negative of the sort, but for the ones that are happy, I think its a great thing to feel that there are people in any line of work "doing what they love" and I hope it stays like that for a long long time for them, but I also wish the ones that can't say the same thing, could somehow be able to say it eventually. Everyone should feel good in life no matter what they do, I just wish, everyone really did.

 

[Littlegringo]

But what about the ones that really do not like it but feel they can't do anything else that brings in the same kind of money for where they are in life? All I've heard so far is how great it is and that is WONDERFUL, but we all know there are girls out there that hate it but do it anyway. I can understand why they would not want to expose (pardon the pun LOL) who they are here and admit to such a thing because no one ever wants to admit they do something they hate (like guys don't want to admit they bought a bad car) but we all know or can at least easily understand that many girls are out there that are not happy doing this type of work but they do it anyway, and much of the work they do (like the studio models that are heavily controlled by bad bosses in some areas) is not their free choice once they're in front of the cam. I've seen times when a girl literally has a break down or snaps from the stress and goes postal for no apparent reason at all.

I really don't think that is very accurate. I have always regularly seen people say how much they hate their job (not specifying camming, just ANY job). I could go to my facebook right now and scroll down and in no time at all, find examples of people complaining about how their job sucks or their boss is a tool... People that truly love their jobs are more rare. For a lot of people, loving ones job comes from what the ratio of freedom - pay - difficulty of work is. Camming offers girls a job which can pay quite well while they have the freedom of not being 9-5 everyday, if they want to not work for a few days, they can just not work. You don't get that freedom in many jobs. A lot of times, a cam girl having a not so good night will still make a better hourly wage than if she was at some other job with less freedom (and no potential for better income).

I can relate to this since I used to work for other companies (and hated my jobs) until I took the chance and started my own business. I could not see going back to working as a typical employee again. I work from home, can work night or day if I want, and can choose not to work if I want some time off. Even though I'll have some clients who are a pain, the freedom more than makes up for the hassle.

A cam girl breaking down is no different than anyone else breaking down, they are human, same as everyone else, with problems. Everybody doesn't tell every person they meet their life story and all their problems, so if a cam girl breaks down "for no apparent reason" how is that any different from someone in another profession that does the same thing? It comes back to you feeling there is more of a connection than there is with a cam girl. Just because you talk to her (along with hundreds of other guys) and watch her get naked, doesn't mean you are her confidante. Most people don't tell casual acquaintances all their troubles.

 

[Swirl]

But what about the ones that really do not like it but feel they can't do anything else that brings in the same kind of money for where they are in life? All I've heard so far is how great it is and that is WONDERFUL, but we all know there are girls out there that hate it but do it anyway. I can understand why they would not want to expose (pardon the pun LOL) who they are here and admit to such a thing because no one ever wants to admit they do something they hate (like guys don't want to admit they bought a bad car) but we all know or can at least easily understand that many girls are out there that are not happy doing this type of work but they do it anyway, and much of the work they do (like the studio models that are heavily controlled by bad bosses in some areas) is not their free choice once they're in front of the cam. I've seen times when a girl literally has a break down or snaps from the stress and goes postal for no apparent reason at all.

I really don't think that is very accurate. I have always regularly seen people say how much they hate their job (not specifying camming, just ANY job). I could go to my facebook right now and scroll down and in no time at all, find examples of people complaining about how their job sucks or their boss is a tool... People that truly love their jobs are more rare. For a lot of people, loving ones job comes from what the ratio of freedom - pay - difficulty of work is. Camming offers girls a job which can pay quite well while they have the freedom of not being 9-5 everyday, if they want to not work for a few days, they can just not work. You don't get that freedom in many jobs. A lot of times, a cam girl having a not so good night will still make a better hourly wage than if she was at some other job with less freedom (and no potential for better income).

I can relate to this since I used to work for other companies (and hated my jobs) until I took the chance and started my own business. I could not see going back to working as a typical employee again. I work from home, can work night or day if I want, and can choose not to work if I want some time off. Even though I'll have some clients who are a pain, the freedom more than makes up for the hassle.

A cam girl breaking down is no different than anyone else breaking down, they are human, same as everyone else, with problems. Everybody doesn't tell every person they meet their life story and all their problems, so if a cam girl breaks down "for no apparent reason" how is that any different from someone in another profession that does the same thing? It comes back to you feeling there is more of a connection than there is with a cam girl. Just because you talk to her (along with hundreds of other guys) and watch her get naked, doesn't mean you are her confidante. Most people don't tell casual acquaintances all their troubles.

Really? A camgirl that breaks down because she is not morally comfortable doing this job but feels she needs to do it anyway because she may have no other choice....

You think that is the same thing as a normal person with a normal job having a breakdown?

Come on...

I'm not really sure that ANY male can understand the position and feelings of any female cam model anyway. We can only guess what it feels like.

 

[Littlegringo]

But what about the ones that really do not like it but feel they can't do anything else that brings in the same kind of money for where they are in life? All I've heard so far is how great it is and that is WONDERFUL, but we all know there are girls out there that hate it but do it anyway. I can understand why they would not want to expose (pardon the pun LOL) who they are here and admit to such a thing because no one ever wants to admit they do something they hate (like guys don't want to admit they bought a bad car) but we all know or can at least easily understand that many girls are out there that are not happy doing this type of work but they do it anyway, and much of the work they do (like the studio models that are heavily controlled by bad bosses in some areas) is not their free choice once they're in front of the cam. I've seen times when a girl literally has a break down or snaps from the stress and goes postal for no apparent reason at all.

I really don't think that is very accurate. I have always regularly seen people say how much they hate their job (not specifying camming, just ANY job). I could go to my facebook right now and scroll down and in no time at all, find examples of people complaining about how their job sucks or their boss is a tool... People that truly love their jobs are more rare. For a lot of people, loving ones job comes from what the ratio of freedom - pay - difficulty of work is. Camming offers girls a job which can pay quite well while they have the freedom of not being 9-5 everyday, if they want to not work for a few days, they can just not work. You don't get that freedom in many jobs. A lot of times, a cam girl having a not so good night will still make a better hourly wage than if she was at some other job with less freedom (and no potential for better income).

I can relate to this since I used to work for other companies (and hated my jobs) until I took the chance and started my own business. I could not see going back to working as a typical employee again. I work from home, can work night or day if I want, and can choose not to work if I want some time off. Even though I'll have some clients who are a pain, the freedom more than makes up for the hassle.

A cam girl breaking down is no different than anyone else breaking down, they are human, same as everyone else, with problems. Everybody doesn't tell every person they meet their life story and all their problems, so if a cam girl breaks down "for no apparent reason" how is that any different from someone in another profession that does the same thing? It comes back to you feeling there is more of a connection than there is with a cam girl. Just because you talk to her (along with hundreds of other guys) and watch her get naked, doesn't mean you are her confidante. Most people don't tell casual acquaintances all their troubles.

Really? A camgirl that breaks down because she is not morally comfortable doing this job but feels she needs to do it anyway because she may have no other choice....

You think that is the same thing as a normal person with a normal job having a breakdown?

Come on...

I'm not really sure that ANY male can understand the position and feelings of any female cam model anyway. We can only guess what it feels like.

I'm married to a cam girl and know others in person. Both my wife and a girl I've known for years both hated working their crap ass typical jobs a lot more than camming. No, that doesn't represent all cam models, but it represents some and I'm sure plenty of other girls have felt that way about their work as well.

I also grew up with family members with severe depression as well as friends like that as well. Breakdowns happen to people in all walks of life, and both sexes. I've seen co-workers at typical crap jobs breakdown in the middle of their shift and have to go to the back office and sit and cry, unable to finish their shifts. Different situations will have different triggers but it is by no means a special problem that cam models face.

 

[Lounge20K]

Every single person is different. No one can talk about all men and all women. Never mind specifying and narrow it down to their jobs.

Someone is saying cam girls might hate their jobs, I think the key word here is MIGHT. What is true for a person isn't for another. It's like you are trying to decide if water should be drunken ice cold or warm. What happened to the ''individual taste''?

Some might have chosen to be cam girls for their own reasons, others might have ended up being cam girls out of choices, others might just enjoy it as a part of their sexual life, heck there are so many possibilities here..!!

 

[Pant222]

But what about the ones that really do not like it but feel they can't do anything else that brings in the same kind of money for where they are in life? All I've heard so far is how great it is and that is WONDERFUL, but we all know there are girls out there that hate it but do it anyway. I can understand why they would not want to expose (pardon the pun LOL) who they are here and admit to such a thing because no one ever wants to admit they do something they hate (like guys don't want to admit they bought a bad car) but we all know or can at least easily understand that many girls are out there that are not happy doing this type of work but they do it anyway, and much of the work they do (like the studio models that are heavily controlled by bad bosses in some areas) is not their free choice once they're in front of the cam. I've seen times when a girl literally has a break down or snaps from the stress and goes postal for no apparent reason at all.

I really don't think that is very accurate. I have always regularly seen people say how much they hate their job (not specifying camming, just ANY job). I could go to my facebook right now and scroll down and in no time at all, find examples of people complaining about how their job sucks or their boss is a tool... People that truly love their jobs are more rare. For a lot of people, loving ones job comes from what the ratio of freedom - pay - difficulty of work is. Camming offers girls a job which can pay quite well while they have the freedom of not being 9-5 everyday, if they want to not work for a few days, they can just not work. You don't get that freedom in many jobs. A lot of times, a cam girl having a not so good night will still make a better hourly wage than if she was at some other job with less freedom (and no potential for better income).

I can relate to this since I used to work for other companies (and hated my jobs) until I took the chance and started my own business. I could not see going back to working as a typical employee again. I work from home, can work night or day if I want, and can choose not to work if I want some time off. Even though I'll have some clients who are a pain, the freedom more than makes up for the hassle.

A cam girl breaking down is no different than anyone else breaking down, they are human, same as everyone else, with problems. Everybody doesn't tell every person they meet their life story and all their problems, so if a cam girl breaks down "for no apparent reason" how is that any different from someone in another profession that does the same thing? It comes back to you feeling there is more of a connection than there is with a cam girl. Just because you talk to her (along with hundreds of other guys) and watch her get naked, doesn't mean you are her confidante. Most people don't tell casual acquaintances all their troubles.

Granted, any job can offer stress and such, but I'm ONLY talking about camming in this case. And I know a few girls that absolutely hate it for the reasons listed.

 

[Swirl]

But what about the ones that really do not like it but feel they can't do anything else that brings in the same kind of money for where they are in life? All I've heard so far is how great it is and that is WONDERFUL, but we all know there are girls out there that hate it but do it anyway. I can understand why they would not want to expose (pardon the pun LOL) who they are here and admit to such a thing because no one ever wants to admit they do something they hate (like guys don't want to admit they bought a bad car) but we all know or can at least easily understand that many girls are out there that are not happy doing this type of work but they do it anyway, and much of the work they do (like the studio models that are heavily controlled by bad bosses in some areas) is not their free choice once they're in front of the cam. I've seen times when a girl literally has a break down or snaps from the stress and goes postal for no apparent reason at all.

I really don't think that is very accurate. I have always regularly seen people say how much they hate their job (not specifying camming, just ANY job). I could go to my facebook right now and scroll down and in no time at all, find examples of people complaining about how their job sucks or their boss is a tool... People that truly love their jobs are more rare. For a lot of people, loving ones job comes from what the ratio of freedom - pay - difficulty of work is. Camming offers girls a job which can pay quite well while they have the freedom of not being 9-5 everyday, if they want to not work for a few days, they can just not work. You don't get that freedom in many jobs. A lot of times, a cam girl having a not so good night will still make a better hourly wage than if she was at some other job with less freedom (and no potential for better income).

I can relate to this since I used to work for other companies (and hated my jobs) until I took the chance and started my own business. I could not see going back to working as a typical employee again. I work from home, can work night or day if I want, and can choose not to work if I want some time off. Even though I'll have some clients who are a pain, the freedom more than makes up for the hassle.

A cam girl breaking down is no different than anyone else breaking down, they are human, same as everyone else, with problems. Everybody doesn't tell every person they meet their life story and all their problems, so if a cam girl breaks down "for no apparent reason" how is that any different from someone in another profession that does the same thing? It comes back to you feeling there is more of a connection than there is with a cam girl. Just because you talk to her (along with hundreds of other guys) and watch her get naked, doesn't mean you are her confidante. Most people don't tell casual acquaintances all their troubles.

Really? A camgirl that breaks down because she is not morally comfortable doing this job but feels she needs to do it anyway because she may have no other choice....

You think that is the same thing as a normal person with a normal job having a breakdown?

Come on...

I'm not really sure that ANY male can understand the position and feelings of any female cam model anyway. We can only guess what it feels like.

I'm married to a cam girl and know others in person. Both my wife and a girl I've known for years both hated working their crap ass typical jobs a lot more than camming. No, that doesn't represent all cam models, but it represents some and I'm sure plenty of other girls have felt that way about their work as well.

I also grew up with family members with severe depression as well as friends like that as well. Breakdowns happen to people in all walks of life, and both sexes. I've seen co-workers at typical crap jobs breakdown in the middle of their shift and have to go to the back office and sit and cry, unable to finish their shifts. Different situations will have different triggers but it is by no means a special problem that cam models face.

I saw a cam model once come out of her first private crying because she was totally unsure that she wanted to do this job but felt she had no other choice...

Sorry, but that is a "special problem that cam models face"

It's not the same as being sad because your job sucks....at all.

 

[Pant222]

Every single person is different. No one can talk about all men and all women. Never mind specifying and narrow it down to their jobs.

Someone is saying cam girls might hate their jobs, I think the key word here is MIGHT. What is true for a person isn't for another. It's like you are trying to decide if water should be drunken ice cold or warm. What happened to the ''individual taste''?

Some might have chosen to be cam girls for their own reasons, others might have ended up being cam girls out of choices, others might just enjoy it as a part of their sexual life, heck there are so many possibilities here..!!

Absolutely, there are many reasons why a girl cams and its wonderful if they are good reasons. For the few I personally know that do indeed hate it, they still do it because they had no better options in their opinion. Remember, not all cam girls live in the same country and not all of them are blessed with the same life that others are simply because of demographics and local economics.

 

[Pant222]

But what about the ones that really do not like it but feel they can't do anything else that brings in the same kind of money for where they are in life? All I've heard so far is how great it is and that is WONDERFUL, but we all know there are girls out there that hate it but do it anyway. I can understand why they would not want to expose (pardon the pun LOL) who they are here and admit to such a thing because no one ever wants to admit they do something they hate (like guys don't want to admit they bought a bad car) but we all know or can at least easily understand that many girls are out there that are not happy doing this type of work but they do it anyway, and much of the work they do (like the studio models that are heavily controlled by bad bosses in some areas) is not their free choice once they're in front of the cam. I've seen times when a girl literally has a break down or snaps from the stress and goes postal for no apparent reason at all.

I really don't think that is very accurate. I have always regularly seen people say how much they hate their job (not specifying camming, just ANY job). I could go to my facebook right now and scroll down and in no time at all, find examples of people complaining about how their job sucks or their boss is a tool... People that truly love their jobs are more rare. For a lot of people, loving ones job comes from what the ratio of freedom - pay - difficulty of work is. Camming offers girls a job which can pay quite well while they have the freedom of not being 9-5 everyday, if they want to not work for a few days, they can just not work. You don't get that freedom in many jobs. A lot of times, a cam girl having a not so good night will still make a better hourly wage than if she was at some other job with less freedom (and no potential for better income).

I can relate to this since I used to work for other companies (and hated my jobs) until I took the chance and started my own business. I could not see going back to working as a typical employee again. I work from home, can work night or day if I want, and can choose not to work if I want some time off. Even though I'll have some clients who are a pain, the freedom more than makes up for the hassle.

A cam girl breaking down is no different than anyone else breaking down, they are human, same as everyone else, with problems. Everybody doesn't tell every person they meet their life story and all their problems, so if a cam girl breaks down "for no apparent reason" how is that any different from someone in another profession that does the same thing? It comes back to you feeling there is more of a connection than there is with a cam girl. Just because you talk to her (along with hundreds of other guys) and watch her get naked, doesn't mean you are her confidante. Most people don't tell casual acquaintances all their troubles.

Really? A camgirl that breaks down because she is not morally comfortable doing this job but feels she needs to do it anyway because she may have no other choice....

You think that is the same thing as a normal person with a normal job having a breakdown?

Come on...

I'm not really sure that ANY male can understand the position and feelings of any female cam model anyway. We can only guess what it feels like.

I'm married to a cam girl and know others in person. Both my wife and a girl I've known for years both hated working their crap ass typical jobs a lot more than camming. No, that doesn't represent all cam models, but it represents some and I'm sure plenty of other girls have felt that way about their work as well.

I also grew up with family members with severe depression as well as friends like that as well. Breakdowns happen to people in all walks of life, and both sexes. I've seen co-workers at typical crap jobs breakdown in the middle of their shift and have to go to the back office and sit and cry, unable to finish their shifts. Different situations will have different triggers but it is by no means a special problem that cam models face.

I saw a cam model once come out of her first private crying because she was totally unsure that she wanted to do this job but felt she had no other choice...

Sorry, but that is a "special problem that cam models face"

It's not the same as being sad because your job sucks....at all.

Agreed.