Library camgirl busted

[HiGirlsRHot]

Why is succumbing to puritanical attitudes a good thing? Certainly outdoor shows isn't for everyone, and some care needs to be taken but to crack down on it entirely is a bad idea.

Will there is a big thread discussing the problems with public shows. But I'll just state the obvious ones public nudity and especially public masturbation is pretty much illegal everywhere. You don't get a choice of which laws you obey in a society. Second, it is often not possible for cam models to prevent somebody from being recognizable, considering that most public shows are automatically capped and uploaded, and the more popular shows widely distributed on tube sites, there is a significant risk that a bystander could appear in porn video. Finally even if the person is un recognizable, I (and I am sure most folks) don't want to appear as a prop on your commercial video especially without compensation or consent.

If they're unrecognizable, their desire to not be a prop is moot. So is capping and uploading to porn sites. If no unwilling party is recognizable, no foul.

Imagine I was filming a fund raiser for the "George W Bush, President for Life committee" at a library. I was showing the huge number of supporters for Bush 43 at the library. These events have become increasingly popular. One of the people I showed n the background was you. While your face wasn't visible you and potentially your friends could recognize you because of clothes, body type, hair color etc. Are you telling me that you'd be fine be in film that wants to make Bush 43, the dictator of the United States?

There is a significant segment population who find porn as offense as you do 20 more years of a Bush presidency.

 

[noahthesquid]

what about Jessie125? she was doing library shows almost every day last month..

She's a model on here, and once she learned that MFC started cracking down, she's trying new things in chat. Noah, I find it hilarious that your FIRST AND ONLY post on here is to bring one girl's actions into the limelight. Are you just hoping that she'll get in trouble? Are you a model who's jealous that she got away with it and you didn't? Otherwise, I don't see what the big deal is. Unless a model is doing something legally/morally wrong (doing crack on cam/showing children/beastiality/etc), don't worry about it. Click next model if it bothers you.

uh, way to slam me instead of jessie125. this is after all a thread about cam girls doing library shows. i was simply mentioning another model who i had seen ~a lot~ in the library recently. this is the first thread that sparked my interested when i signed in (after a year?) and so i decided to make a post. get over it. don't worry about it.

 

[JimsX]

What! No more outdoor shows for Natsu... :shock: :shock: :shock:

That's going to make it really tough for her. She's pretty much relied on them exclusively. There's only so much conversation can be had through google translate.[/quote]

She has done OK the past couple days, though I won't be surprised if she drops a bit in camscore (hopefully not). She is trying to communicate, though you are right, it seems difficult for her. I found her using a translation book kinda charming :lol:

 

[Nordling]

Why is succumbing to puritanical attitudes a good thing? Certainly outdoor shows isn't for everyone, and some care needs to be taken but to crack down on it entirely is a bad idea.

Will there is a big thread discussing the problems with public shows. But I'll just state the obvious ones public nudity and especially public masturbation is pretty much illegal everywhere. You don't get a choice of which laws you obey in a society. Second, it is often not possible for cam models to prevent somebody from being recognizable, considering that most public shows are automatically capped and uploaded, and the more popular shows widely distributed on tube sites, there is a significant risk that a bystander could appear in porn video. Finally even if the person is un recognizable, I (and I am sure most folks) don't want to appear as a prop on your commercial video especially without compensation or consent.

If they're unrecognizable, their desire to not be a prop is moot. So is capping and uploading to porn sites. If no unwilling party is recognizable, no foul.

Imagine I was filming a fund raiser for the "George W Bush, President for Life committee" at a library. I was showing the huge number of supporters for Bush 43 at the library. These events have become increasingly popular. One of the people I showed n the background was you. While your face wasn't visible you and potentially your friends could recognize you because of clothes, body type, hair color etc. Are you telling me that you'd be fine be in film that wants to make Bush 43, the dictator of the United States?

There is a significant segment population who find porn as offense as you do 20 more years of a Bush presidency.

I understand your analogy, I just don't agree with it. If I was at a Bush rally, or a freaking Hitler rally for that matter, it'd be on me if a camera caught me. Public is public. Let the bystander beware. We cannot base our laws on the excessive modesty of individuals, the slippery slope would soon outlaw everything. I don't like okra, therefore I don't want you to eat them either. blah.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

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I understand your analogy, I just don't agree with it. If I was at a Bush rally, or a freaking Hitler rally for that matter, it'd be on me if a camera caught me. Public is public. Let the bystander beware. We cannot base our laws on the excessive modesty of individuals, the slippery slope would soon outlaw everything. I don't like okra, therefore I don't want you to eat them either. blah.

I was making a moral argument, but it is nearly as important as the legal argument. Public nudity with intention of arousal is illegal and masturbation is considered even worse. Corporations that facilitate, condone, or even just turn a blind eye to illegal activities, deserve and often do get punish. The bank HSBC just got fined 1.9 billion, for among other things turning a blind eye to customers evading US taxes. They may face criminal prosecution also. MFC has been profiting by turning a blind eye to illegal public cam shows. This has in turn led to a dramatic increase to this type of show, on many occasions resulting identifiable people being caught on camera, and a few case children. As Teagan and others pointed out these library shows ain't victimless crimes, even if you think it is a meh.

Anyway these arguments were made pages ago in this thread so I am done.

 

[Teagan]

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I understand your analogy, I just don't agree with it. If I was at a Bush rally, or a freaking Hitler rally for that matter, it'd be on me if a camera caught me. Public is public. Let the bystander beware. We cannot base our laws on the excessive modesty of individuals, the slippery slope would soon outlaw everything. I don't like okra, therefore I don't want you to eat them either. blah.

I was making a moral argument, but it is nearly as important as the legal argument. Public nudity with intention of arousal is illegal and masturbation is considered even worse. Corporations that facilitate, condone, or even just turn a blind eye to illegal activities, deserve and often do get punish. The bank HSBC just got fined 1.9 billion, for among other things turning a blind eye to customers evading US taxes. They may face criminal prosecution also. MFC has been profiting by turning a blind eye to illegal public cam shows. This has in turn led to a dramatic increase to this type of show, on many occasions resulting identifiable people being caught on camera, and a few case children. As Teagan and others pointed out these library shows ain't victimless crimes, even if you think it is a meh.

Anyway these arguments were made pages ago in this thread so I am done.

Exactly why I havent repeated myself again. If someone hasnt read through the thread or refuses to think that being caught in the back of a porno is no big deal then that's on them. It's no big deal to some people cause they think it will never happen to them, or that it would be cool...until it actually affects them that is. The potential and probable repercussions of public shows and those caught in the background are pretty clear now. Do one and you are breaking the law and will face the consequences. Be in one on accident and sadly you may face consequences too one day.

 

[Nordling]

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I understand your analogy, I just don't agree with it. If I was at a Bush rally, or a freaking Hitler rally for that matter, it'd be on me if a camera caught me. Public is public. Let the bystander beware. We cannot base our laws on the excessive modesty of individuals, the slippery slope would soon outlaw everything. I don't like okra, therefore I don't want you to eat them either. blah.

I was making a moral argument, but it is nearly as important as the legal argument. Public nudity with intention of arousal is illegal and masturbation is considered even worse. Corporations that facilitate, condone, or even just turn a blind eye to illegal activities, deserve and often do get punish. The bank HSBC just got fined 1.9 billion, for among other things turning a blind eye to customers evading US taxes. They may face criminal prosecution also. MFC has been profiting by turning a blind eye to illegal public cam shows. This has in turn led to a dramatic increase to this type of show, on many occasions resulting identifiable people being caught on camera, and a few case children. As Teagan and others pointed out these library shows ain't victimless crimes, even if you think it is a meh.

Anyway these arguments were made pages ago in this thread so I am done.

Exactly why I havent repeated myself again. If someone hasnt read through the thread or refuses to think that being caught in the back of a porno is no big deal then that's on them. It's no big deal to some people cause they think it will never happen to them, or that it would be cool...until it actually affects them that is. The potential and probable repercussions of public shows and those caught in the background are pretty clear now. Do one and you are breaking the law and will face the consequences. Be in one on accident and sadly you may face consequences too one day.

I just can't seem to get what you mean by consequences. Let's say I'm wandering around in the background while someone is in the foreground showing their junk. Twenty years later, the blurry video re-emerges and my wife, mother, sister, boss, dog notices that someone that looks like me seems to be in it, IN THE BACKGROUND and obviously not in any way a part of the production. "Oh, man, I had no idea you were a porn star, Nord." WTF? This would happen? And if it did how upset could I be? (zero). Besides, why is this person pointing a hypothetical accusing finger at me doing WATCHING this stuff that they think is immoral, unethical, illegal or whatever?

Look, I'm a private person, and somewhat shy and don't want a spotlight on me, but I just don't see that happening, under these circumstances...about 1/1000th of the chance I'll be hit by lightening.

And HigirlRHot.... morality is a personal thing, law is a societal thing. The two do not equate, although I realize a lot of people try to make it so. Thus we have laws based on someone's puritanical morality, and who search for enough fellow travelers to pass laws. These laws that try to control morality should be broken...as often as people have the fortitude to do so. When the law is an ass, treat the ass like any other ass.

 

[Teagan]

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I understand your analogy, I just don't agree with it. If I was at a Bush rally, or a freaking Hitler rally for that matter, it'd be on me if a camera caught me. Public is public. Let the bystander beware. We cannot base our laws on the excessive modesty of individuals, the slippery slope would soon outlaw everything. I don't like okra, therefore I don't want you to eat them either. blah.

I was making a moral argument, but it is nearly as important as the legal argument. Public nudity with intention of arousal is illegal and masturbation is considered even worse. Corporations that facilitate, condone, or even just turn a blind eye to illegal activities, deserve and often do get punish. The bank HSBC just got fined 1.9 billion, for among other things turning a blind eye to customers evading US taxes. They may face criminal prosecution also. MFC has been profiting by turning a blind eye to illegal public cam shows. This has in turn led to a dramatic increase to this type of show, on many occasions resulting identifiable people being caught on camera, and a few case children. As Teagan and others pointed out these library shows ain't victimless crimes, even if you think it is a meh.

Anyway these arguments were made pages ago in this thread so I am done.

Exactly why I havent repeated myself again. If someone hasnt read through the thread or refuses to think that being caught in the back of a porno is no big deal then that's on them. It's no big deal to some people cause they think it will never happen to them, or that it would be cool...until it actually affects them that is. The potential and probable repercussions of public shows and those caught in the background are pretty clear now. Do one and you are breaking the law and will face the consequences. Be in one on accident and sadly you may face consequences too one day.

I just can't seem to get what you mean by consequences. Let's say I'm wandering around in the background while someone is in the foreground showing their junk. Twenty years later, the blurry video re-emerges and my wife, mother, sister, boss, dog notices that someone that looks like me seems to be in it, IN THE BACKGROUND and obviously not in any way a part of the production. "Oh, man, I had no idea you were a porn star, Nord." WTF? This would happen? And if it did how upset could I be? (zero). Besides, why is this person pointing a hypothetical accusing finger at me doing WATCHING this stuff that they think is immoral, unethical, illegal or whatever?

Look, I'm a private person, and somewhat shy and don't want a spotlight on me, but I just don't see that happening, under these circumstances...about 1/1000th of the chance I'll be hit by lightening.

And HigirlRHot.... morality is a personal thing, law is a societal thing. The two do not equate, although I realize a lot of people try to make it so. Thus we have laws based on someone's puritanical morality, and who search for enough fellow travelers to pass laws. These laws that try to control morality should be broken...as often as people have the fortitude to do so. When the law is an ass, treat the ass like any other ass.

Just read back and the potential consequences are already talked about. Easy as that. It wont be lightening that gets you but technology, google, and/or someone seeing you.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, I know, so why are we still discussing it? Just because someone says there'll be a horrendous price to pay if you're seen skulking in the background of an old video of someone showing their junk doesn't mean there WILL be. :lol:

 

[Teagan]

Yeah, I know, so why are we still discussing it? Just because someone says there'll be a horrendous price to pay if you're seen skulking in the background of an old video of someone showing their junk doesn't mean there WILL be. :lol:

Hence why I said potential. However I should have more accurately said probable. Taking in to account society and technology and where it's headed it's a probable to say the least.

 

[Sevrin]

Yeah, I know, so why are we still discussing it? Just because someone says there'll be a horrendous price to pay if you're seen skulking in the background of an old video of someone showing their junk doesn't mean there WILL be. :lol:

The gravity of the consequences is not the point. What matters is that one is displaying the likeness of another person on an adult site without their consent for personal profit.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, I know, so why are we still discussing it? Just because someone says there'll be a horrendous price to pay if you're seen skulking in the background of an old video of someone showing their junk doesn't mean there WILL be. :lol:

Hence why I said potential. However I should have more accurately said probable. Taking in to account society and technology and where it's headed it's a probable to say the least.

I agree that out of the thousands of capped videos out there, one that you (generic you) are in and recognizable in the background and that for some reason becomes viral enough that someone you know, work for or are related to will see it, is certainly plausible as a possibility, but very unlikely and even if it happened that it would be more than a few laughs between you and someone is a tiny possibility. I'd say it's more likely that you will be captured by North Koreans in your own home and locked in the refrigerator and later freed by a Royal Mounted Police officer wearing bermuda shorts.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, I know, so why are we still discussing it? Just because someone says there'll be a horrendous price to pay if you're seen skulking in the background of an old video of someone showing their junk doesn't mean there WILL be. :lol:

The gravity of the consequences is not the point. What matters is that one is displaying the likeness of another person on an adult site without their consent for personal profit.

Except they're not. If you happen to appear it's because you happen to wander by in the background. She isn't USING you for profit; chances are she doesn't even know you wandered by. Maybe we should prohibit crowd scenes in news shows...after all, we didn't get model releases from everyone in the crowd, and the broadcaster is most certainly using everyone in the crowd for profit.

 

[Teagan]

Yeah, I know, so why are we still discussing it? Just because someone says there'll be a horrendous price to pay if you're seen skulking in the background of an old video of someone showing their junk doesn't mean there WILL be. :lol:

Hence why I said potential. However I should have more accurately said probable. Taking in to account society and technology and where it's headed it's a probable to say the least.

I agree that out of the thousands of capped videos out there, one that you (generic you) are in and recognizable in the background and that for some reason becomes viral enough that someone you know, work for or are related to will see it, is certainly plausible as a possibility, but very unlikely and even if it happened that it would be more than a few laughs between you and someone is a tiny possibility. I'd say it's more likely that you will be captured by North Koreans in your own home and locked in the refrigerator and later freed by a Royal Mounted Police officer wearing bermuda shorts.

As I said before though that it may not just be someone seeing and recognizing a person but technology that will catch up. From there a google search of a name is all that would be needed. It was plainly stated and it is where things are headed. Go back and read cause I shouldn't have to repeat it.

And yeah some girls are doing it and showing people for pure profit just FYI. Public shows bring in big bucks for some and showing people and the thrill of it all is all for profit. That's using them for sure.
And I dont think you can really compare being shown in a news story popping up in google results and porn popping up. Completely different things, completely different reactions, completely different bias in our culture. Comparing them is just silly.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, I know, so why are we still discussing it? Just because someone says there'll be a horrendous price to pay if you're seen skulking in the background of an old video of someone showing their junk doesn't mean there WILL be. :lol:

Hence why I said potential. However I should have more accurately said probable. Taking in to account society and technology and where it's headed it's a probable to say the least.

I agree that out of the thousands of capped videos out there, one that you (generic you) are in and recognizable in the background and that for some reason becomes viral enough that someone you know, work for or are related to will see it, is certainly plausible as a possibility, but very unlikely and even if it happened that it would be more than a few laughs between you and someone is a tiny possibility. I'd say it's more likely that you will be captured by North Koreans in your own home and locked in the refrigerator and later freed by a Royal Mounted Police officer wearing bermuda shorts.

As I said before though that it may not just be someone seeing and recognizing a person but technology that will catch up. From there a google search of a name is all that would be needed. It was plainly stated and it is where things are headed. Go back and read cause I shouldn't have to repeat it.

And yeah some girls are doing it and showing people for pure profit just FYI. Public shows bring in big bucks for some and showing people and the thrill of it all is all for profit. That's using them for sure.
And I dont think you can really compare being shown in a news story popping up in google results and porn popping up. Completely different things, completely different reactions, completely different bias in our culture. Comparing them is just silly.

Think about it though. What if the crowd were protesting something you don't agree with and you happened to be wandering by and get caught on camera appearing to be part of the crowd? Depending on the protest, the end result to you and your life could be far worse than being spotted as a person wandering by while someone you don't know doing adult things at your local Safeway.

I simply think we're hyperventilating over something that is very unlikely to harm anyone.

But this is just one person's opinion and I shall now go back to reading the cat thread.

 

[Azhrarn]

There's a reason that library shows garnered 2-3 x the viewers of any other type of show on MFC; they offered something that you can't find anywhere else. To watch a girl finger herself live or on video at her home are pretty much the same, unless you like to socialize; whereas when she does it in public where she might get caught, the thrill is much greater if it's happening in real time. Pretty much the same reason why people prefer to watch sports live even if it's on TV -- to 'live in the moment' with the team and the players. I know my heart beat as fast or faster than that of most models when sudden footsteps started sounding out mid-climax. And the show where lilsecrett got caught was the best thing ever; I tip my hat to you if you read this lil, as I can no longer tip tokens.

With the moral brigade of the fun police having their brand of angry fix, there's one less great way to fill an empty afternoon, and the world's the poorer for it. It's always the same, 'think of the children!', yada yada yada. If children didn't exist, I wonder what reason they'd find to enforce their prejudice? Probably that bodily fluids will contaminate the place... Excuses are the one resource that we'll never run out of. Otoh I guess I shouldn't complain because it is the very prudes who do these crack-downs that make the stunts exciting in the first place. I just hope the heat dies down so the girls can get back to business (so to speak).

As for getting caught on video against your will, give me a break. Do you even know how many cameras there are out there in any major city center? Soon there will be bee-sized drones with cameras flying all over the place (if there aren't already), and none of them will stop mid-buzz to ask for your written consent before filming you in any and all activities. Let's face it people, privacy is a 20th-century concept. Wake up, smell the madness, inhale it, learn to enjoy it, amen.
:headbang:

I'm sure there's a logical way for someone who gets a hard-on from the thought of breaking laws and offending prudes to defend the erosion of privacy in the 21st century. I'm also sure I'll never find it. This is hardly the first time that the elimination of privacy has been attempted. It failed the last time, it will fail this time too. Then people like you will be able to get back to wanking off as a form of societal protest. lmfao

 

[Courtneypage]

http://therealpornwikileaks.com/popporn ... derland-2/

 

[tachnine]

With the moral brigade of the fun police having their brand of angry fix, there's one less great way to fill an empty afternoon, and the world's the poorer for it. It's always the same, 'think of the children!',

WRONG. It's also about people having to sit on public chairs made out of liquid retaining fabric with their children.... that are soaked with cum and other body fluids. How about if Male cammers start doing this regularly? There will be cum all over public tables, chairs, keyboards, etc. Even if you don't catch diseases, which you could...it's damn disgusting. I love camgirl library shows, but I can see the objections from the side that's perfectly legit.

But the MAIN reason that MFC don't want this is due making them susceptible for possible lawsuits for profit sharing. People who are captured on video and broadcasted over a for-profit porn site, can sue for profit sharing. This is why there are model's releases and most times, faces are blurred if one is not signed.

As for getting caught on video against your will, give me a break. Do you even know how many cameras there are out there in any major city center? Soon there will be bee-sized drones with cameras flying all over the place (if there aren't already), and none of them will stop mid-buzz to ask for your written consent before filming you in any and all activities. Let's face it people, privacy is a 20th-century concept. Wake up, smell the madness, inhale it, learn to enjoy it, amen.
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This is a dumb argument. Security footage are rarely, if ever viewed and are automatically recorded over. And certainly aren't broadcasted all over the internet on YouTube, pornsites and the likes, each and all footage. Only when there is a need, such as a crime was committed, would CCTV footage be viewed, collected as evidence and then leaked or released to the public.

Learn the law. You can film anyone in public w/o their consent, but if you use such footage for profit, then they have a good legal case against you to share in your profit. For a camgirl at a library for a particular occurrence, it may just be a few hundred dollars in tokens....but this could be huge for a site such as MFC as they are the broadcaster with deeper pockets. Worse, they can also be sued for obscenity laws and that would tack on all sorts of punitive damages sought by the plaintiff(s). And many States still have many Sodomy laws on the books, such as making it illegal, even for a married couple to have anal sex, homosexuality a crime, etc. They're rarely if ever, enforced, nowadays....but for a company with big money, these laws will certainly be used against them and can shut down MFC completely. This happened already by a porn company that sold through the mail, to a State that chose to prosecute them based on such laws.

 

[weirdbr]

Even if you don't catch diseases, which you could...

Stretching the argument quite a bit there... The people sitting on those chairs will likely be dressed and (hopefully) won't be dumb enough to go licking their fingers or touching their eyes after touching a dirty chair (which could increase the risk of infection). Plus, from what my horrible memory of my biology classes from 10+ years ago tells me, the vast majority of pathogens related to STDs don't live long outside of a host body.

Now, if you just said that it's kinda disgusting and disrespectful to the other people that use that shared infrastructure, I would agree.

As I said before though that it may not just be someone seeing and recognizing a person but technology that will catch up. From there a google search of a name is all that would be needed. It was plainly stated and it is where things are headed. Go back and read cause I shouldn't have to repeat it.

Actually the technology has long caught up:
- Recently (some two years ago), Google published their research about deep learning/neural networks: they created a neural network with no previous training data (so basically it was as knowledgeable about the world as a newborn), told it to watch youtube and it learnt to identify and differentiate faces of multiple species, including cats and humans.
- A little further back in time (maybe 5 years ago?), Facebook got in trouble with the European Union for one feature they launched and later had to disable in Europe - it would automatically tag people in pictures that they were present in, without explicitly getting their consent ahead of time. So Facebook had to disable that feature for European users or face a gigantic fine. And I think that they never even tried to re-enable it, because since then the EU Privacy bodies got even stronger.
- And a bit further back, when Google tried to launch Streetview in Europe (after launching in the US), they were blocked for quite a while because Europeans really disliked the fact that they (and their license plates) would be exposed in the pictures. So Google had to go back to the drawing board and find a way to blur the faces of people in those pictures. I don't know how they did it, but the logical process would be to use face-recognition algorithms to find the faces and blur them.
- And around that time (maybe 10 years or so ago), I was already using software to manage my personal photo collection that automatically tried to identify faces and cluster them by similarity for me to later identify the people involved (to make the 'let me make an album of everyone for Grandma!' easier). It had a high false-positive rate, but from randomly looking at pictures, it would get about 80% of the faces automatically.

Now, the main reason this thing will not go as large scale as you paint it: only a few select governments that want to make George Orwell's nightmare come true (*cough*USA*cough*UK*cough*) believe automated identification like that is something useful. Talk to most civilian groups and they will be quite creeped out at that idea, so there will be little support for any company or law that makes this possible.

 

[Teagan]

The vast majority may die after a bit when it hits air but that's beside the point really. So is saying you hope people don't touch their eyes or mouth. People do just touch their faces and such without even thinking about it. As do kids who will incessantly put things in their mouth. All it takes is a touch here or there and you could end up with a disease. Might be a cold or flu, might be an STD. It wouldnt just be the chairs the girls are sitting in either, it would be anything they touched after touching themselves. The tables, doors, etc. It's not hard to catch something really this way.

Anyway I know the technology existed but it's not wide spread or on a buy at the store or download basis which is why I said for it to catch up. It is not widely used or available..yet. Nothing is stopping it from becoming that way though. It could be produced and sold to consumers. It's not me painting it to go large scale but reality. People will buy it so someone will sell it. Profit beats out anything. And selling it for home based use is different than the examples you gave. Im not talking governments only, but people and companies doing it as well. So would google or some other company just running videos through a program they made. Stores you walk into could scan customers even to track buying and spending habits or some such excuse they would use. Eventually we well may be headed to Minority Report world where ads are based on our facial scans in public.

Thinking their would be little market for it i think you are giving people to much credit. People love to stalk. Social media has proved this. We as a society love to keep tabs on our families, exes, neighbors, etc. And being able to buy software to track someone and check out the results people would certainly pay for.

Sure it may be far away, but again that's not the point. It would get to a point where even the bottom of the barrel videos could be scanned for faces and pick someone up who didnt consent to being in a porn. That little girl in LilSecrets vid that has been posted without her blurred face could end up getting tagged as an adult one day. That's very sad to think about.

 

[fandango]

Anyway I know the technology existed but it's not wide spread or on a buy at the store or download basis which is why I said for it to catch up. It is not widely used or available..yet. Nothing is stopping it from becoming that way though. It could be produced and sold to consumers. It's not me painting it to go large scale but reality. People will buy it so someone will sell it. Profit beats out anything. And selling it for home based use is different than the examples you gave. Im not talking governments only, but people and companies doing it as well. So would google or some other company just running videos through a program they made. Stores you walk into could scan customers even to track buying and spending habits or some such excuse they would use. Eventually we well may be headed to Minority Report world where ads are based on our facial scans in public.

Thinking their would be little market for it i think you are giving people to much credit. People love to stalk. Social media has proved this. We as a society love to keep tabs on our families, exes, neighbors, etc. And being able to buy software to track someone and check out the results people would certainly pay for.

Sure it may be far away, but again that's not the point. It would get to a point where even the bottom of the barrel videos could be scanned for faces and pick someone up who didnt consent to being in a porn. That little girl in LilSecrets vid that has been posted without her blurred face could end up getting tagged as an adult one day. That's very sad to think about.

This is entirely plausible to me. Ads already follow you around the internet. I bought a new laptop recently and so I had spent a few days here and there looking around the internet at different ones and prices and all of a sudden on other random websites I was seeing loads of ads for laptops and it kind of weirded me out. If companies can get away with it, no one stops them and privacy laws are further stretched and relaxed then I can easily see them using facial recognition to log every real store you go into and even what youve looked at in the store and start playing you personalised ads as you walk around. Companies make huge amounts of money from targeted ads and as the technology improves they will only get better at it.

Also its totally possible that facebook or whatever the next big socail network of the future is could do a thing to tag you in everything youve ever been in online. Therefore that little girl could easily pop up on some weird searches and so could anyone else in the background of one of those public shows. It might sound a bit crazy and farfetched but if you could go back 10-15 years and tell yourself about the stuff we have now that would sound crazy back then too. Who knows what the future could hold.

Whether anyone would care if theyre just in the background is another question and far more personal to the individual involved.

 

[Azhrarn]

@weirdbr - “only a few select governments”? The Five Eyes may be leading the way, but this is happening pretty much everywhere.

@fandango - Facebook is already doing this. They build dossiers on people who don’t even use Facebook.

FYI: I moved recently, and now Facebook wants to know where I work. Oh no, that’s not creepy at all you NSA whore.

 

[tachnine]

Even if you don't catch diseases, which you could...

Stretching the argument quite a bit there... The people sitting on those chairs will likely be dressed and (hopefully) won't be dumb enough to go licking their fingers or touching their eyes after touching a dirty chair (which could increase the risk of infection). Plus, from what my horrible memory of my biology classes from 10+ years ago tells me, the vast majority of pathogens related to STDs don't live long outside of a host body.

Well you need to go back to biology class because people are known to do this often (touching eyes, putting hands on mouth, etc.), without knowing...especially after shaking hands with someone, opening a door knob...and I'm not even talking about the door of a public restroom, yet. They don't do so right away, but often don't sanitize their hands after touching such and later touch their eyes, etc.

"DIRTY CHAIR"? So you've never touched any part of a chair in a library or anywhere public, with your bare hands before? Even after sitting there for hours? Maybe you have OCD, so in this case, good for you. But most people don't have OCD to be that dilligent.

Now, if you just said that it's kinda disgusting and disrespectful to the other people that use that shared infrastructure, I would agree.

Well I said ALL OF THE ABOVE, including the POSSIBILITIES of diseases. Not a guaranteed transmission of any disease.

Do you know what Hepatitis A is? Then look up Staphylococcus Aureus next. Plenty of other risks. But Staph, mainly, can live on non-porous objects & materials for 24 hours at least and up to a MONTH on porous materials such as spongy things or, tada.....library chair cushion. You can get Staph anywhere and more likely, get MRSA, while waiting for a sick friend at a hospital....but shit, I can understand why many people don't want to sit on a library chair that was just soaked with some chick's cum....no matter how hot it was to beat off to it over the internet, making you cum twice...... nor use a keyboard that some homeless dude jizzed on way back, last month.

 

[tachnine]

Even if you don't catch diseases, which you could...

Stretching the argument quite a bit there... The people sitting on those chairs will likely be dressed and (hopefully) won't be dumb enough to go licking their fingers or touching their eyes after touching a dirty chair (which could increase the risk of infection). Plus, from what my horrible memory of my biology classes from 10+ years ago tells me, the vast majority of pathogens related to STDs don't live long outside of a host body.

And shit....I forgot all about, shit. Many of these shows, the girls sticks dildos and fingers up their ass. Then the dildo can rest somewhere and the fingers can start smearing on the couch, even unintentionally. Want to talk about the spread of E. coli? E. coli can live for HUNDREDS OF YEARS on that library seat cushion. Little kids and old people are going to be the first one getting sick with their weakened immune system, or even die.

Now of course, there's nothing to stop someone from picking their butt and smearing it all over a library seat, while they're reading a book. Yea, shit happens in every day life. But hell, this is like a self gynecological & self proctological examination (X) 100 with no bio-safety measures, none. What about dudes, whacking off to porn at the Library's computer and switching to both hands to type? How about the dudes who whacks off and jizz all over the seats and backrest of buses and metros because that's their thing? This is essentially the same thing, except not bringing in too many tokens.

 

[Teagan]

Jesus I need a shower after reading all that.

 

[WickedTouch]

Even if you don't catch diseases, which you could...

Stretching the argument quite a bit there... The people sitting on those chairs will likely be dressed and (hopefully) won't be dumb enough to go licking their fingers or touching their eyes after touching a dirty chair (which could increase the risk of infection). Plus, from what my horrible memory of my biology classes from 10+ years ago tells me, the vast majority of pathogens related to STDs don't live long outside of a host body.

And shit....I forgot all about, shit. Many of these shows, the girls sticks dildos and fingers up their ass. Then the dildo can rest somewhere and the fingers can start smearing on the couch, even unintentionally. Want to talk about the spread of E. coli? E. coli can live for HUNDREDS OF YEARS on that library seat cushion. Little kids and old people are going to be the first one getting sick with their weakened immune system, or even die.

Now of course, there's nothing to stop someone from picking their butt and smearing it all over a library seat, while they're reading a book. Yea, shit happens in every day life. But hell, this is like a self gynecological & self proctological examination (X) 100 with no bio-safety measures, none. What about dudes, whacking off to porn at the Library's computer and switching to both hands to type? How about the dudes who whacks off and jizz all over the seats and backrest of buses and metros because that's their thing? This is essentially the same thing, except not bringing in too many tokens.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Jesus I need a shower after reading all that.

To put it in perspective though, your chances of actually catching anything mentioned are really low. Hepatitis A? nah. There's vaccinations, many states require them now. If you ever had it you're immune for life. It's fecal to orally transmitted. So unless you're licking toilet seats, simply washing your hands virtually nullifies your odds of getting it.

STD's? Never been a documented case of anyone getting one from public seats that i know of. Try to find one.

Staph, E-coli and all the others? Unless you've got open wounds and you sit down on something contaminated with it right away and it goes directly into that sore you're not very likely. Washing your hands wipes out most chances once again.

There's germs on every public seat out there. Theaters, public restrooms, trains, buses. You deal with them every day and you don't see massive outbreaks going around with all the people you know do you? You're average kitchen sponge has 200,000 times the bacteria of any toilet seat you've ever run across. Fear mongering over something like this should not be given a second thought. Wash your hands and move on fear free.

 

[tachnine]

Jesus I need a shower after reading all that.

It's fecal to orally transmitted. So unless you're licking toilet seats, simply washing your hands virtually nullifies your odds of getting it.

So if there's was a girl doing a dildo up the ass cam-show on a library seat and the dildo was in and out, numerous times....while the dildo sometimes is out and resting on the seat, smearing all over...including her ass cheeks and bare asshole dragging along the cushy seat, etc.....and remember, when PRO Pornstars are scheduled for anal sex scenes....they get enemas the night before, then take massive shits and then hardly eat anything the next day and maybe another refresher enema right before the scene....to not give the dude fucking her romantically up the ass, some chocolate on the tip of his dick, surprise....which is a huge embarrassment in their business....so the question is, are Cam-Girls this clean & thorough? I've seen quite a few slushy, lube & shit milkshakes oozing when the anal beads come out.

So now you're sitting in a chair that was drenched in cum and this slushy lube & shit surprise....doing your homework for the next 2 hours. You're telling me that you're going to be so conscious of everything that you touch, every single time...that you'll wash your hands immediately? How many trips to the bathroom will this take?

STD's? Never been a documented case of anyone getting one from public seats that i know of. Try to find one.

You can certainly get Herpes from toilet seats. But many people have Herpes, so it's not a big deal to even waste time documenting it. It doesn't mean that I'd want to sit somewhere that someone just jizzed all over it, does it?

Staph, E-coli and all the others? Unless you've got open wounds and you sit down on something contaminated with it right away and it goes directly into that sore you're not very likely. Washing your hands wipes out most chances once again.

Good for you and your OCD condition, but most people don't wash their hands that often.....because most normal people don't fucking expect that the library seat that they're sitting on to be drenched full of cum and ass juice. Worse if for the LITTLE KIDS. Do you think little kids will wash their hands so fervently and diligently? Ever see a little kid trying to climb onto an adult sized chair? Their face is all over the seat with the mouth wide open and tongue making full contact, fuck!

There's germs on every public seat out there. Theaters, public restrooms, trains, buses. You deal with them every day and you don't see massive outbreaks going around with all the people you know do you? You're average kitchen sponge has 200,000 times the bacteria of any toilet seat you've ever run across. Fear mongering over something like this should not be given a second thought. Wash your hands and move on fear free.

No shit there are germs everywhere, but it's crazy to use this as an argument, that it's OK for Cam-Girls to spray cum, urine and feces all over seats, couches, keyboard, mice, etc. of a public library.

What about homeless people jizzing all over subway seats and taking a piss and shit by the door? Are you OK with that too? Just let some homeless guy shoot his load all over the back of your head.....hey, it washes right off right? Apparently, this may be legal in Russia as there are dudes filming themselves doing such. And videos of hookers pissing all over the insides of a city bus for show.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

So if there's was a girl doing a dildo up the ass cam-show on a library seat
...blah blah blah...
Good for you and your OCD condition...

I think you're here to stir up trouble where there was none. I'll simply let my previous post speak for itself cause your post was a bunch of nonsense.

Fear mongering over something like this should not be given a second thought.

 

[Alexandra Cole]

Reductio ad absurdum.

Just wear a biohazard suit, tachnine. And maybe stop watching so much Russian porn.