Marketing?

[lollol69]

Sorry if this has been discussed somewhere else or if I'm posting in the wrong section, but I'm just taking the path of least resistance.

I wondering how much marketing helps with your customer base?

My girlfriend is camming on a few different sites and I've been spending hours making cool profiles for her and building a twitter base to throw give her much exposure.

In your experience, does marketing / branding / cam-profiles make much of a difference to the bottom line? Or to guys just log in and click on a cam they like the look of?

 

[Zoomer]

Never discovered a camgirl from twitter. Or her profile page. Also, her twitter and her profile make no odds to me tipping (unless it's telling me what I can get for a tip).
Basically i'm not searching social media for a camgirl, I'll find them on the sites. The sites don't make me wade through their profiles and/or social media, they show me them on cam.
Not sure it helps, but from a users perspective, the only reason I'd care about social media/profile is after i've already found them and decided I like them. It doesn't make me tip, or keep me coming back - the model herself does this.

 

[Dan Epstein]

I carefully say, let her onboard here and consult with the veteran models. That's one of the positive causes this place is for, and it's s safe and friendly one.

 

[swagger]

I agree with Zoomer for the most part, other than this site, I usually find models online.

 

[lollol69]

Her english is scratchy sadly (Columbian), so I'm in charge of marketing. Seems fair enough to me.

I like cruising twitter and following the models. Twitter is good for free porn in general.

 

[dilligaf0]

Don't disregard Twitter's influence. If a model is followed by a model I like / follow, I will look at her profile and if it interests me, I will follow the new model (at least for a while to see if I'm interested in becoming a fan). I agree that getting verified here to get access to the model's only section will provide a lot of information for her.

 

[Shutterbuck]

...Twitter is good for free porn in general...

I feel like as both a SO and "Marketing Manager"... your attitude towards Twitter could probably be adjusted.

 

[Dan Epstein]

Dígale que se una al Foro porfavor, Hay muchos modelos aqui que pueden ayudarle en una manera rapida y eficaz.

There is more than one Spanish speaker here, and a mediation might just make delays for her.

 

[lollol69]

I feel like as both a SO and "Marketing Manager"... your attitude towards Twitter could probably be adjusted.

I don't understand ?

Anyway, I'll ask if she wants to get on here but I doubt I'll have much luck.

 

[curvyredhead]

Twitter is good for free porn in general.

And therein lies the problem.

 

[Dan Epstein]

I don't understand ?

Anyway, I'll ask if she wants to get on here but I doubt I'll have much luck.

I believe what was meant is that a good communication between a model and a marketer, or affiliate, is not self explanatory, and that knowing how to use social media is a part of it.

 

[Dan Epstein]

Her english is scratchy sadly (Columbian), so I'm in charge of marketing. Seems fair enough to me.

I like cruising twitter and following the models. Twitter is good for free porn in general.

I think that you should let her take charge of the marketing too with that attitude. There is an abundance of lucrative Spanish speaking platforms for both models and marketers. Lo se por experiencia caballero.

 

[Ambers Troll]

I think marketing is more critical in holding member attention, a model wants to keep her members up to date and passionate about her once they discover her.
The best marketing strategy is being available/ visible on a regular basis. Twitter, and snaps are awesome for that because your members can find you 24/7 up until you are physically on. There are other ways to keep you on a member's mind but they are too many and varied to list; one such way may be to be active here, but we are are a relative small pool of paying members.

The simplest and best marketing strategy is to be regular with your camming, to be on when your audience is on.

 

[Ivy Adams]

I think it really depends on what your goals are. If you're looking for a basic log on and make money and then disconnect, social media and marketing aren't going to accomplish those any better than just logging on and letting the sites bring the traffic.

However, if your goal is to build a brand and be able to drive your own traffic than marketing is an absolute MUST, in my opinion. I spent 2 years building up my following on social media before I made the switch to a token site (MFC in this case) I was on for 4 hours and broke into the top 300 MFC models on my first night, which was halfway through the month. I'm only listing the numbers to prove the point that the ONLY reason that happened is because I spent hours a day on social media building my brand, so I had tons of people show up to my room to support my first night on MFC.

If you have the ability to convert then it doesn't matter if people go on twitter to find a cam model. The truth of the matter with social media is that it isn't a cam site, so really, not many people are on there to search for that type of thing, or are prepared at the drop of a hat to take out their wallet and spend. If they find you, it is your job to convert them. You may not see results in the short term, but long term you can create your own fan base that will follow you anywhere. It's always better to depend on yourself for your income over depending on how well a site is doing.

My humble opinion, of course.

 

[Shutterbuck]

I don't understand ?

I clearly have no knowledge of the boundaries in your relationship with your girlfriend so I'll not bother to comment on that.
But what I mean is this: as a "Marketing Manager", you probably shouldn't be trolling Twitter for free porn. As a professional or entertainer, Twitter should be used for advertising and communication. Not for "cruising and adding models" for the consumption of free wank material.
It also comes to mind that as a "Marketing Manager", you may be the person using Twitter on behalf of your cam girl partner? Because her English is scratchy, as you said?
If you are strictly posting information about your girlfriend's cam related business, fine. However, if you begin to interact with members as though you are her... no so bueno. That starts to come off as a little catfishy... And you stand to do serious damage to your girlfriend's reputation in the member community.
If you begin to interact with other models as though you are her... and you act or speak inappropriately, then you come off as a creep. And you stand to do serious damage to your girlfriend's reputation in the model community.

 

[lollol69]

I think that you should let her take charge of the marketing too with that attitude. There is an abundance of lucrative Spanish speaking platforms for both models and marketers. Lo se por experiencia caballero.

What 'attitude'? 'let her'? She's more than welcome to do her own marketing but she's busy dildoing herself on cam 6 hours per day and looking after our son.. She'd been camming for a year and a half before I met and she had no profile or any type of marketing whatsoever. You make it sound like I'm her damn pimp or something. She doesn't know how to know anything about html and css, and with English as a second language it's hard for her to market herself in English. So I thought I'd help her and see if I can make some affiliate $ as well. Why not?

 

[lollol69]

I think marketing is more critical in holding member attention, a model wants to keep her members up to date and passionate about her once they discover her.
The best marketing strategy is being available/ visible on a regular basis. Twitter, and snaps are awesome for that because your members can find you 24/7 up until you are physically on. There are other ways to keep you on a member's mind but they are too many and varied to list; one such way may be to be active here, but we are are a relative small pool of paying members.

The simplest and best marketing strategy is to be regular with your camming, to be on when your audience is on.

Thanks, yeah the thing is she has no marketing at all, NONE, so she's not really doing anything to be discovered apart from what she does on cam. And I see all these other chicks putting so much effort into glamour profiles and twitter marketing so I just curious how important it is.

 

[Zoomer]

Is she aware she's your girlfriend?

 

[SaffronBurke]

Her english is scratchy

I see this used constantly on here as a reason why the model in question doesn't just sign up herself, and you know what?

1. Your skills at a language improve with use. If I were to go on a Spanish forum with my absolute garbage Spanish (took it for 5 years in school, was passably fluent until I stopped practicing every day and now I can basically cuss you out or ask where the bathroom is), I would get better. Nobody here faults anyone for having poor English, especially if it's not their native language. Some of us can meet people halfway with other languages.

2. Google Translate exists, if you really don't know how to say something. I've used it plenty of times myself when people tweet me in other languages. It translates exactly, so the sentence structure may not be correct for the language you're translating to, but anyone with brain cells and patience can figure out what you mean, especially if they're familiar with the sentence structure of the language being translated from. Again, a fair amount of people on the forum are multilingual and can work it out.

 

[lollol69]

I think it really depends on what your goals are. If you're looking for a basic log on and make money and then disconnect, social media and marketing aren't going to accomplish those any better than just logging on and letting the sites bring the traffic.

However, if your goal is to build a brand and be able to drive your own traffic than marketing is an absolute MUST, in my opinion. I spent 2 years building up my following on social media before I made the switch to a token site (MFC in this case) I was on for 4 hours and broke into the top 300 MFC models on my first night, which was halfway through the month. I'm only listing the numbers to prove the point that the ONLY reason that happened is because I spent hours a day on social media building my brand, so I had tons of people show up to my room to support my first night on MFC.

If you have the ability to convert then it doesn't matter if people go on twitter to find a cam model. The truth of the matter with social media is that it isn't a cam site, so really, not many people are on there to search for that type of thing, or are prepared at the drop of a hat to take out their wallet and spend. If they find you, it is your job to convert them. You may not see results in the short term, but long term you can create your own fan base that will follow you anywhere. It's always better to depend on yourself for your income over depending on how well a site is doing.

My humble opinion, of course.

No .. we .. or she doesn't have any massive goals to be a porn star, or camstar or whatever, she doesn't like her job that much, it's just an alternative to working as a secretary .. and in her case doesn't even pay that much more. Maybe you girls are all superstars of this world and earn stacks of doe .. I'm interested in it. But not as a means to be part of the industry. Twitter is a huge ecosystem ... porn stars and cam models and pervert amateurs interested in sex are all there following and retweeting each other .. either because they like each other or because they want to have a million followers .. I don't know .. but it amounts to exposure. SoI was thinking a few sexy gifs and a link to her room might direct a few guys to her room. People might not go to twitter to to see cam girls but they do go to look at porn ... if you see someone sexy you wanna know who she is. I'm not thinking about building a brand .. just getting a bit of traffic. only thought of branding when I was designing her page profiles. I spent more time doing that than anything else .. and I don't even know if anybody reads those things.

 

[Dan Epstein]

What 'attitude'? 'let her'? She's more than welcome to do her own marketing but she's busy dildoing herself on cam 6 hours per day and looking after our son.. She'd been camming for a year and a half before I met and she had no profile or any type of marketing whatsoever. You make it sound like I'm her damn pimp or something. She doesn't know how to know anything about html and css, and with English as a second language it's hard for her to market herself in English. So I thought I'd help her and see if I can make some affiliate $ as well. Why not?

If you really know HTML and CSS, you should be busy making conversions for her rather than disrespecting her capacities. People like Shutterbuck are busy because they are business partners to models and they are actually empowering them.
You had a marketing guru on all levels joining the thread, Ivy Adams, and yet you still display a very little willing to learn.
You even have a bilingual industry rep (tri lingual but I don't suppose Hebrew will be relevant here) willing to help with Spanish and funneling to other Spanish speaking veteran models and affiliates.
I am beginning to question the motives and the truth value behind your posts.

 

[lollol69]

I clearly have no knowledge of the boundaries in your relationship with your girlfriend so I'll not bother to comment on that.
But what I mean is this: as a "Marketing Manager", you probably shouldn't be trolling Twitter for free porn. As a professional or entertainer, Twitter should be used for advertising and communication. Not for "cruising and adding models" for the consumption of free wank material.
It also comes to mind that as a "Marketing Manager", you may be the person using Twitter on behalf of your cam girl partner? Because her English is scratchy, as you said?
If you are strictly posting information about your girlfriend's cam related business, fine. However, if you begin to interact with members as though you are her... no so bueno. That starts to come off as a little catfishy... And you stand to do serious damage to your girlfriend's reputation in the member community.
If you begin to interact with other models as though you are her... and you act or speak inappropriately, then you come off as a creep. And you stand to do serious damage to your girlfriend's reputation in the model community.

hahaha .. yeah you said everything you needed to say in the first sentence .. 'marketing manager' .. 'trolling twitter' jesus the is one of the most presumptuous,, passive aggressive environments I've ever found.

I'm a large thinker and a talented individual so it's in my nature to want to know how things can be done better. Would there be any reason to interact with other models? I thought MEN were the demographic? I've thought about how I could chat with the men who buy her whatsapp and milk them for money . sometimes I'm the one sending the porn customs to them .. but it's all rather gross.

 

[lollol69]

If you really know HTML and CSS, you should be busy making conversions for her rather than disrespecting her capacities. People like Shutterbuck are busy because they are business partners to models and they are actually empowering them.
You had a marketing guru on all levels joining the thread, Ivy Adams, and yet you still display a very little willing to learn.
You even have a bilingual industry rep (tri lingual but I don't suppose Hebrew will be relevant here) willing to help with Spanish and funneling to other Spanish speaking veteran models and affiliates.
I am beginning to question the motives and the truth value behind your posts.

I'm willing to learn. But these judgements and assumptions are not the way I want to learn.. I actually know already a lot about marketing .. just not in this industry. I really wanted info from the girls about how much branding helps. Which I think I got,so thanks for that.

Speaking with you 'professionals' has actually made me realise I'd rather invest my energies elsewhere. Happy camming.

 

[lollol69]

P.S every thirteen year old knows html and css these days. I know how to write block sorting algorithms in lisp, and you wouldn't even know what that means after three days of wikipedia.

 

[SaffronBurke]

but it's all rather gross.

and pervert amateurs interested in sex

Twitter is good for free porn in general.

she's busy dildoing herself on cam 6 hours per day

I mean, with this attitude toward the industry, how are people not jumping to be the one to help you? The world may never know.

 

[JoleneBrody]

There's not a whole lot of stretching and judgement going on here, just people commenting on the things that YOU said. "I like cruising twitter and following the models." aka trolling twitter. Trolling doesn't always mean you're a troll, it's also a word used similarly to cruise but based on the blatant skeeve and apparent shock at being called out on those things, it's kinda making me wonder...
I personally find the way you describe your activities as insanely unprofessional, skeevy and kind of embarrassing.

Knowing HTML and CSS really has nothing to do with being a good marketing manager but if your girlfriend is OK with your shady activities then wtf-ever right? It's only hurting her.

 

[Fatquack]

P.S every thirteen year old knows html and css these days. I know how to write block sorting algorithms in lisp, and you wouldn't even know what that means after three days of wikipedia.

I was programming computers before wikipedia (and probably you) even existed. Good luck finding help here with that attitude.

 

[Ambers Troll]

And I see all these other chicks putting so much effort into glamour profiles and twitter marketing so I just curious how important it is.

The short answer is that a up to a certain quality, they are important, that is why models put such effort into them.

A model's profile is much more a sales instrument than a marketing one depending to what extent she offers other content. Most interested members will look at a model's profile before paying for anything. Tags, topics, and how she expresses herself on cam all will be reflected in her profile.... Start there. When the focus becomes more marketing based, this profile will be a part of this.
If doesn't need to be too complex, in fact complex can be off-putting, irritating and too slow to load. Ensure that you place details in your profile that the model is genuine about, don't make the model something she isn't.

Don't forget about all those on-site communication tools at a model's disposal either... most of these can be used like advertising, hawking out the front of a store front to get people in.

 

[MiaFoxUK]

This thread reminds why I would never let anyone else, partner or not, have any control over my career

 

[Blake Devine]

Dígale que se una al Foro porfavor, Hay muchos modelos aqui que pueden ayudarle en una manera rapida y eficaz.

There is more than one Spanish speaker here, and a mediation might just make delays for her.

Pssst...i think it is wonderful you included Spanish in your post. Also, imagine ACF worldwide! *dramatic echo* (note: this is only funny if you have seen the movie Stepbrothers)