Is it fair or?

[dragonking123]

I don't think anyone is thinking straight because the only thing seriously on my mind guys is this pandemic global situation. It is seriously starting to scare me. An I've hears from customers I have done work for say this is scarier for them then living in the war?

 

[MarieElise]

Mental health worker then why did you quit doing that? I've got loads of respect for people that deal with mental health or are willing to help them through it.

Yes I am a hypocrite and okay my gramme isn't great but I'm not focusing on my grammer and just responding to comments?

Funny you mention hopefully not in the middle of a life stream. I read a new article either this year or last of a guy asking a girl to hang herself in the middle of a live stream. An she actually done it. Don't know how long it took the police to turn up. But it was still in a live stream feed.

I quit doing it for several reasons...

1) I could not separate my empathetic response, from the rest of my life. The shit I heard that people had done to their own family members, children and spouses, haunted me every waking minute (and many of the sleeping ones too). Keep in mind, I was required to treat both victims and perpetrators of very serious crimes. Many of them sex crimes. So I worked closely with victims of rape, sex abuse, as well as perpetrators of all of the above too.

2) I could no longer enjoy my own sex life, because I heard way too many stories of sexual violence, perpetrated against the innocent and defenseless. I started to feel uncomfortable with sex and my own sexuality, because I had intrusive thoughts of the trauma of others, every time I felt like expressing sexuality. So vicarious trauma.

3) Many of the people in charge were not handling Obama's healthcare changes in any kind of logical, or responsible way. Leading to mass case overloads, as well as leading indirectly to members of my community, who needed serious medication and support, not receiving it. This indirectly lead to at least one stabbing that I know of, but likely countless other cases of self harm, and abuse. Likely a suicide or two also.

I fully support healthcare reform. However the way it was handled, by the county and the mental healthcare leaders in my specific community, was piss poor. I turned to adderall as a way to cope, and eventually even that, would not drown out the raw pain I was deeply exposed to everyday. I cared very deeply about my clients, and felt that I could no longer, honestly, serve them.

In response to this hanging story; I do not believe it.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Which one? We've had a lot of fun new members since quarantine. c:

Pandaboy

 

[Marceline]

I should mention that I really like the latest profound posts by @Marceline and @EliMarie717. You both are trying to talk to him the way you'd talk to a normal person, making your statements and allegories the way you'd clarify your position to someone who's able to have a good and deep argument.
But I really don't feel like he's the one.
He obviously doesn't feel the need to take anything you've said seriously.
I'll be happy to see I'm wrong, though.

Most definitely it's falling upon deaf ears. Or maybe selectively blind eyes would be more apt? Hah. But, when there's blatant misogyny I like to at least offer a counterargument to their ramblings in the hope that if it doesn't reach them then maybe it will reach someone else who happens to read this thread now or in the future.

Unfortunately, this industry can attract the worst of the worst when it comes to misogynistic assholes who wish to take out their own personal insecurities and self loathing on women, because all these mean women are the source of all their issues and they have no culpability (a la incels). And they also believe that they are more likely to get away with this behavior if it is directed at women in the adult industry because just look at the way general society views "immodest" women. It's a gross mindset, but can unfortunately be a prevalent one. If there's a slim chance being logical with them will get through, why not try it, ya know?

 

[dragonking123]

I quit doing it for several reasons...

1) I could not separate my empathetic response, from the rest of my life. The shit I heard that people had done to their own family members, children and spouses, haunted me every waking minute (and many of the sleeping ones too). Keep in mind, I was required to treat both victims and perpetrators of very serious crimes. Many of them sex crimes. So I worked closely with victims of rape, sex abuse, as well as perpetrators of all of the above too.

2) I could no longer enjoy my own sex life, because I heard way too many stories of sexual violence, perpetrated against the innocent and defenseless. I started to feel uncomfortable with sex and my own sexuality, because I had intrusive thoughts of the trauma of others, every time I felt like expressing sexuality. So vicarious trauma.

3) Many of the people in charge were not handling Obama's healthcare changes in any kind of logical, or responsible way. Leading to mass case overloads, as well as leading indirectly to members of my community, who needed serious medication and support, not receiving it. This indirectly lead to at least one stabbing that I know of, but likely countless other cases of self harm, and abuse. Likely a suicide or two also.

I fully support healthcare reform. However the way it was handled, by the county and the mental healthcare leaders in my specific community, was piss poor. I turned to adderall as a way to cope, and eventually even that, would not drown out the raw pain I was deeply exposed to everyday. I cared very deeply about my clients, and felt that I could no longer, honestly, serve them.

In response to this hanging story; I do not believe it.

I know a few people that like you have gone through what you have. Maybe not all. But I can't comment on that side of it. Sorry that you couldn't enjoy your fun time anymore and started to feel insecure about it. Its a nasty world we live in.

 

[MarieElise]

it. Its a nasty world we live in.

I agree, so let's all try to be kind to each other, when possible. Let the judgements (and possibly grudges too) go...

 

[Lizzy_Beth]

I'm seeing a trend here, responses are far too familiar now... I'm thinking this guy is the same as another problematic user who received a warning the day before the account was created.


Anyway, I'm done wasting time on this fool.

Oh, so I’m not alone in thinking this writing sounds familiar? Then again, there are a lot of idiots on the internet, but the thought did cross my mind.

 

[dragonking123]

I agree, so let's all try to be kind to each other, when possible. Let the judgements (and possibly grudges too) go...

Well one thing I will say is true from me I don't hold grudges and honestly. Online stuff like this I won't take seriously because in my opinion it's pointless. Yes it sounds stupid or silly. Call it what you will. Truth hurts if people can't handle it.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Cool. Story. Bro.

 

[dragonking123]

Modesty equating self respect is an outdated and untrue concept generally touted by people who are just projecting their own insecurities and are wishing to shame others as a way to feel better about themselves. And camming is most definitely a real job. If it wasn't why would we have to pay taxes? The money I make from the adult industry spends the same as the money I made when I was working in another industry. Your "decent wages" argument is moot as well, considering a fair amount of models make well above minimum wage. In fact, I'd be willing to bet a very good percentage of models make more than the average vanilla, non-industry person does when they work the same exact amount of hours.

Also this is untrue vvv



Considering in your first post you said this vvvv



Methinks you have some issues with rejection, perceived or real. The original post was in fact about your own experience. You could not handle what you thought was being slighted by the model and lashed out at her, which mirrors your behavior in this thread.

Keep enjoying your day and while you're at it perhaps do a bit of self reflection on why you need to lash out when things don't go the way you want them to.

This was years ago and it's was only on the cam site I never exchanged numbers with her and I will never give my number to a cam model.

 

[Beawaresweety]

Most definitely it's falling upon deaf ears. Or maybe selectively blind eyes would be more apt? Hah. But, when there's blatant misogyny I like to at least offer a counterargument to their ramblings in the hope that if it doesn't reach them then maybe it will reach someone else who happens to read this thread now or in the future.

Unfortunately, this industry can attract the worst of the worst when it comes to misogynistic assholes who wish to take out their own personal insecurities and self loathing on women, because all these mean women are the source of all their issues and they have no culpability (a la incels). And they also believe that they are more likely to get away with this behavior if it is directed at women in the adult industry because just look at the way general society views "immodest" women. It's a gross mindset, but can unfortunately be a prevalent one. If there's a slim chance being logical with them will get through, why not try it, ya know?

Yeah, I see your reasons for formulating it the way you've been doing. And I must say I highly appreciate that.
There's still hope that someone who reads all these posts, will get an insight and, maybe, change their mind in some aspects.
But I feel like there's still a lot, A LOT of work to do.
I'd be happy if some kind of deep arguments actually helped people to realize that they were wrong and that there's no shame in being wrong (there are a lot of inner reasons for thinking one way or another, there's almost always an underlying, hidden in plain sight problem) and no shame in changing your mind after reevaluating some of your toxic positions.

 

[Beawaresweety]

This was years ago and it's was only on the cam site I never exchanged numbers with her and I will never give my number to a cam model.

I can see this situation is still bothering you, despite of the fact that it was a long time ago.
That's okay. That's okay to be bothered. That's okay to try to understand what and why happened.
But there's no need to be bitter to everyone. If you've been hurt, that's okay to feel bad. Just why do you need to project someone's unpleasant move on all models?

Also, honey, the truth is that no one needs your phone number. But you still feel the need to reject someone first ("it's not you who doesn't need me and my phone number, it's me who doesn't need you and doesn't give my number to you").

 

[MarieElise]

That's is classic response

Does the amygdala have the capacity for logic? Let's break this down to neurobiology.

 

[AmberCutie]

I'm seeing a trend here, responses are far too familiar now... I'm thinking this guy is the same as another problematic user who received a warning the day before the account was created.


Anyway, I'm done wasting time on this fool.

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE DIDN'T YOU DETECTIVE THIS IN A PREVIOUS SITUATION TOO?

You're right. It's Sean from the thread 2 days ago that got banned.

JESUS why are people so obsessed with this forum that they make multiple accounts just to get acknowledgement from us? How incredibly pathetic can people be?

GET A BETTER HOBBY. AND THERAPY.


MENTAL.
ILLNESS.

 

[MarieElise]

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE DIDN'T YOU DETECTIVE THIS IN A PREVIOUS SITUATION TOO?

You're right. It's Sean from the thread 2 days ago that got banned.

JESUS why are people so obsessed with this forum that they make multiple accounts just to get acknowledgement from us?


MENTAL.
ILLNESS.

I fucking KNEW IT!!

 

[AmberCutie]

I fucking KNEW IT!!

He tried to sign up under a couple other names yesterday, but he finally got smart and switched up some other key elements to get past my net.

The desperation is seriously so ugly.

 

[MarieElise]

He tried to sign up under a couple other names yesterday, but he finally got smart and switched up some other key elements to get past my net.

The desperation is seriously so ugly.

He's really sick. But, yes, I agree. Firm boundaries with this guy, are a great, GREAT idea. He needs support beyond the fair scope of a SW or of a friendly forum.

ETA; I started to realize it was him, when he went TF after Brett. Jealousy. Obsessed w Z34G.

ETAA; Also, just saying, you have the NHS!!! Dude, that's a good thing. Take advantage of it.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE DIDN'T YOU DETECTIVE THIS IN A PREVIOUS SITUATION TOO?

You're right. It's Sean from the thread 2 days ago that got banned.

JESUS why are people so obsessed with this forum that they make multiple accounts just to get acknowledgement from us? How incredibly pathetic can people be?

GET A BETTER HOBBY. AND THERAPY.


MENTAL.
ILLNESS.

I might have previously. But, don't recall and not really important on that aspect. Though, I was thinking it might have been kerriboy as the posting style seemed similar to that. Don't think I saw the sean posts you're referring to.

Like you said, don't see why so many are obsessed with creating multiple accounts after being banned. Sadly, it's common here and many other forums.


It's good to have open discussion, and at times healthy debates. So long as we're all respectful of each other.

 

[AmberCutie]

Don't think I saw the sean posts you're referring to.

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/zeana34g.36212/#post-1051005

(For you and anyone else confused.)

 

[SaffronBurke]

He tried to sign up under a couple other names yesterday, but he finally got smart and switched up some other key elements to get past my net.

The desperation is seriously so ugly.

It will never cease to amaze me that people go to these kinds of lengths to participate in communities that they "hate"

 

[AudriTwo]

Who needs HBO. I can't decide which was my favorite twist. "It wasn't me. It was totally a blog I read" or OP was the same dude who is spending all his free time harassing and trying to ruin a Cammodel's career he used to be personal with.

 

[AudriTwo]

It will never cease to amaze me that people go to these kinds of lengths to participate in communities that they "hate"

Yeah I don't get it either...

**Unsubscribes from Amberlynn Reid**

 

[AmberCutie]

Yeah I don't get it either...

**Unsubscribes from Amberlynn Reid**

I hate that her name is a single letter off of most of my social media names.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Yeah I don't get it either...

**Unsubscribes from Amberlynn Reid**

In the case of dudes who keep coming back here, it almost HAS to be some kind of humiliation fetish.

 

[AudriTwo]

I hate that her name is a single letter off of most of my social media names.

The pornstar AmberLynn Reid sent her a cease and desist to stop using her full name on her YouTube because pornstar AmberLynn has her name trademarked. Maybe you can do the same?

 

[Deleted member 37064]

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/zeana34g.36212/#post-1051005

(For you and anyone else confused.)

Damn, wow... That's fucked up. I saw the thread title but didn't bother delving into it.

 

[AmberCutie]

The pornstar AmberLynn Reid sent her a cease and desist to stop using her full name on her YouTube because pornstar AmberLynn has her name trademarked. Maybe you can do the same?

lol not ready to go to that extent. I'll just sit in my corner and be bitter.

 

[Carmita Bonita]

Whooo that twist! Wtf so gross. I truly feel horrible for any other models including the one he initially came here to harass-who ever had to deal with him. Yiiikes.

 

[Beawaresweety]

In the case of dudes who keep coming back here, it almost HAS to be some kind of humiliation fetish.

Now I feel like he has to pay me for all the bad words I've used towards him. I was genuine but if it's his fetish, I should have been paid for that.

Whooo that twist! Wtf so gross. I truly feel horrible for any other models including the one he initially came here to harass-who ever had to deal with him. Yiiikes.

That's why I called him pathetic and tried to not go deeper than a mirrored trolling.
I felt like there was something seriously wrong with him.

 

[Beawaresweety]

Plot twist: all the weirdos who have ever come here to argue with/troll models are the same person who has a lot of fake IPs.