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MFC Traffic, Google Updates, Ads

Discussion in 'General Cam Chat' started by Yavin4MFC, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. Yavin4MFC

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    Related to my other forum thread.

    Couple other things to keep in mind:

    MFC is not "mobile first". That will hurt organic rankings over time.

    Google Chrome's built in ad-blocker specifically targeted spammy and intrusive ads. If that site mentioned in the tweet was placing those, that's on them, not MFC.

    More here - https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/19/16797522/google-chrome-ad-blocker-release-date-announced

    MFC seems to be rebranding around the "MFC" name, or "MyFreeCams", neither of which is "My Free Cams" but are technically made up words. If the site as a whole is just trying to rank for those, you will never see growth or high rankings for "webcam" (which hopefully shows Logitech on Amazon first alongside Wikipedia).

    Where MFC is failing most is in creating branded content that brings in new traffic. See all the magazines and publications that ManyVids is doing, that's how you win in new traffic and new visitors apart from direct ads. It's possible MFC Share can help with this over time...if it wasn't a subdomain, share.mfc.com, instead of mfc.com/share. The former will almost always rank lower than the latter. (And also keep in mind, more organic traffic rankings over ad traffic = more exposure to all the models, for better or for worse, and there's no way to block states/cities/regions from Google, just on MFC itself.)

    I may be completely wrong about this, but hopefully these will add some more information to everyone.
     
  2. DrWangFei

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    URL is such a minor aspect of SEO. Keywords in the title tag, meta description tags, H1 tags for example play a more pivotal role in placement on search engines.
     
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  3. Yavin4MFC

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    Agreed to an extent, but we're not talking just about URL, we're doing talking domain vs sub domain. There's some strong evidence that it doesn't necessarily help domains rank higher.

    Also, the keywords game is important, sure, but it's less of a ranking factor than ever, now with Rank Brain and other updates that are focused on search intent over specific keywords. Hence, "webcam". "Free live porn", "free webcam porn", "topless webcam", "nude cam models", those are what MFC needs. They're endless almost too.
     
  4. Striker44

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    Hi,
    I've seen a lot of models both at the top and bottom complain of low traffic and lower tips recently. I'm just a member and even I've noticed it. While this is hurting all, its been especially painful for the lower ranked cam models from what I've seen.

    There's been a couple interesting threads on twitter where some models have posted analytical numbers showing a big decline vs same time last year. Then another model posted these to tweets :




    If this information is to be believed it appears that a change Google made is a big reason for lower traffic. I'm not sure I personally buy that as the only problem as I'd think it would only effect new customers and not existing customers... but I don't know.

    One thing that in my opinion validates much of this information that Ginger tweeted is this post :
    https://www.crakrevenue.com/blog/myfreecams-ppl/

    It would appear to me that yes MFC is working hard and willing to pay to get traffic back to the website. I think that's a good sign.

    I just wanted to post this for any model who might be suffering from low traffic. It's not necessarily the model , all models seem affected. There are some bigger problems that are being worked on it looks like.

    What I do not know is if this is a problem specific to MFC or if Chaturbate, and other sites are having problems as well.

    [post was moved to this thread from a duplicate - Amber]
     
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  5. BillyJackBlack

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    I can’t speak to the google stuff but, as a regular customer of three cam sites (LJ, CB and MFC), the site performance and video quality gap between MFC and CB/LJ just keeps getting larger and larger. How many people continue to watch SDTV when HDTV is available?

    I have 80MB internet and a gaming quality computer and there were serious issues with MFC a few weeks ago. The site loaded so slowly it was unusable, it seems back to normal now but normal for MFC is choppy video streams that look like they are from the age of dial up. I suppose it was tolerable a few years back but CB has some rooms in 1080p and many in 720p and LJ video streams are vastly superior to MFC for the models cross camming on both sites.

    MFC always had the advantage of many more American models and a superior social experience but I can get that on twitch albeit without the nudity and such. In fact, there has been much discussion about “cam girl” invasion on twitch over the past couple of months.

    As far as marketing goes, turn off your ad blocker and visit some porn tube sites and you will be bombarded with CB and LJ pop ups and never see anything for MFC. Ad blockers are so prevalent now, I am not sure what effect that has, but it has to have some. CB has also had some main stream media exposure lately.

    The top few rows of models on MFC are much like the site itself, stagnant. I had to chuckle at some of the MFC new features, the permanent ban option (a new and easier way to ban those pesky paying members forever!), the room helper (handling a room of 65 viewers with eight premiums can be so tasking) and MFC share (we are taking MV down!).

    How about taking a look at the front page of your site for the typical first time guest, blurry little cam previews and the first room they open is in choppy 240p, it’s time warp back to 2005. LJ just revamped their site and comparing the two is like comparing a Tesla to a Buick Century.
     
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  6. AmberCutie

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    These comments are a bit off-topic and the video quality issues have been discussed ad nauseam in other threads but:
    That's been around for a couple years now.
    Best goddamn thing they ever did, and it's not to take MV down, it's to make it much much easier for their loyal models to sell content. It's frakkin' brilliant.
    If the room you went to was choppy and 240p, it means the model's internet and computer can't handle anything higher, so she's using that. For example my stream is 800x600 and running at the highest bitrate because I can handle those settings. Offering models higher HD options will help some, but not all.
     
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  7. Kitsune

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    I've been working with CrakRevenue for years... and what that guy told the model isn't entirely true. Part of the traffic problem is MFC works exclusively with CrakRevenue and they thought removing their revshare program in 2015 was a great idea. Well, now they saw what happens when you don't invest in traffic and last month their revshare program got reinstated on CrakRevenue offers page. I am considering using it, in fact.
     
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  8. DJ_Pioneer

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    Well here is an ad from crakrevenue and I guess this is how they are going to drive more traffic to MFC or at least part of it. It is a short video that seems to be designed to bring in so called freeloaders, they show 5 cam models and then there is some testimonials in the disguise of comments and I assume they are fake. I found the ad as a pop up on Pornhub hopefully the models who are featured in the ad is not doing it in secret because it won't be a secret anymore with this ad. An obnoxious ad targeted towards people wanting free stuff is probably not what the models tweeting about the SEO being bad had hoped for.
     
  9. AmberCutie

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    That is always how affiliates have driven traffic though. It's not news.
     
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  10. Wolf_3_5_9

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    Maybe not, but if they’re targeting sites like Pornhub, the audience there is already looking for free content for the most part. So it’s a case of knowing your audience. But the more important thing is that this will bring in views. Even if the percentage is small, MFC knows that a certain number of people will convert to paying members at some point, but they need the traffic first. And the biggest hurdle for most companies is to get that initial sign-up. Turning a Guest into a Basic is (I’m guessing) a larger hurdle than turning a Basic into a Premium. So targeting that is pretty smart imo.
     
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  11. DJ_Pioneer

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    I agree I just wanted to point out that some of the people on twitter seems to have been a bit naive in how the traffic to the site was going to be increased. It wasn't some magical algorithm changing the SEO it was the same old type of popup ads that any of us that has been on the internet for the last 15 years has grown accustomed to seeing.
     
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  12. AmberCutie

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    I did think it was kind of funny that some of the same people begging for more ads and SEO are likely the same ones that complain about too many freeloaders on MFC and always urging MFC to change their business model to pressure guests to convert to basic/premium.

    I guarantee that if MFC does in fact increase that kind of traffic, the next bandwagon to jump on will be about cutting down on freeloaders.
     
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  13. DJ_Pioneer

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    The only thing that would stop that bandwagon would be if they found something else to complain about, but I can't think of what that would be.
     
  14. Yavin4MFC

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    Thanks for weighing in, AmberCutie. It's helpful to have models talk with members about these concerns and how's it's affecting them, both behind the scenes and publicly.
     
  15. Yavin4MFC

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    Ah that was what happened, I was wondering why someone reposted what I posted lol.
     
  16. Yavin4MFC

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    Hm, I've seen a ton of MFC ads on tube sites lately, and lots of forced referrals straight to the home page, tho CB does it a lot more than MFC. The MFC ads have just not been very good that I've noticed, they appeal to a 'fun hangout camming community!' more than a 'i'm horny and want to watch some girl' aspect.
     
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    Sorry about that. I had no idea there was a very similar post with the same source material.
     
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  18. Yavin4MFC

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    No worries, all good
     
  19. Yavin4MFC

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    I wonder if they took money from their advertising budget and put it into their development budget. All these improvements had to come from somewhere, and I doubt MFC as a company would risk or dip into their profit margin at all.
     
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    I'm surprised that much new traffic via SEO is needed. Is there a high member turnover rate?
     
  21. DJ_Pioneer

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    The big problem seems to be that there are more new models than ever before and the amount of new premium members haven't increased at the same pace so most models earn less now compared to earlier.
     
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    Offering HD and 4k could help MFC as a platform. Not every model is going to use it. But at least then models can choose to compete against models on CB who are streaming at 4k.


    One of the challenges MFC has it they're less relevant because they don't offer all models and couples.

    Blind searches, all the search engine knows is some one skips over MFC for another site.
     
  24. HiGirlsRHot

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    So that is 18.5 members/room. The average you posted last year is 17.6 so no statistical difference. Of course, 18 viewers is really only 4 or 5 premium members. That's pretty hard to make a living with that small a number of premium members.
     
  25. AmberCutie

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    No doubt some would use it and it would be amazing, but I trust that MFC knows the majority of their user base (models) are not equipped to use it so it is not a priority for them.
     
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    Why is MFC always one step behind SM and CB regarding technology?
     
  27. AmberCutie

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    I feel they know their user base (models) better than others since they've been around so long. I know there are THOUSANDS of models who do not have the equipment to stream higher than the current resolution. It's not that stupid to realize if a small % of the model base would use it, it isn't to be pushed as a high priority.
     
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  28. Guy

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    Why is that much more of an issue on MFC than on the 2 other main camsites?
     
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    Amber - I'm curious about your reasoning behind only a small amount of models can go to a higher resolution. Is far as I know MFC tops out at 800x600 from the models web broadcaster. I'd have to think most equipment made in the last 7-9 years can at least do 1024x768 and certainly any dedicated web cam in the last 5-7 years should easily be able to do 1280x720 I'd think.

    Now if multi-streaming to different sites at the same time... I get that this would probably take more RAM and CPU and be more of a reach but to stream on a single site do you there there really is that low a % of models that could achieve it? Is it due to upload bandwidth in Russian and European countries that I know little about?

    Just wondering where this is coming from as I don't know.

    Thank you!
     
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