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Random facts about statistics? I was explaining why a lot of those articles say that a lot of the female Republicans are not college-educated, and why they say that. I was demonstrating that your argument using yourself as an example, was statistically weak, and invalid. Of course statistics can lie, Science can too... at times. That doesn't mean you can throw the whole field out and completely disregard it!

In my opinion, you are saying I am mean and toxic because you can't counter that with anything non-emotional, so you are stalking off in a pout, and making passive-aggressive religious comments to people who you don't agree with. Then tossing around names like "toxic" which is what you accuse me of doing when in reality I think you are being way oversensitive and toxic here.

Again. like Carmita (and others) said in response to several people in this thread. This is a great example of why real-life convos about politics, should be kept out of the cam room. Like the majority seem to agree, it's better to keep stances, in balance, on social media etc. Because it's not possible to easily have a mature, and non-emotional discussion on these types of charged topics, with a lot of people. People's egos get too butt hurt (and they get defensive and oversensitive), so there's no point to it. I would imagine this is exactly why so many of the male spectators have commented that they find this a total turn off in cam rooms because shitty convos exactly like this, are often the end result.
Great I’m glad we got so far. You really seem to want to understand me 🤣 I got religious? I said god bless you, is that really so bad? It seems like anything I say you want to make yourself seem better or smarter. I’m not here to prove anything other than there is so much tension on both sides that it’s impossible to talk about it. So I don’t on cam. And I know when im say I’m republican I know I’m going to have a slew of comments thrown at me that I’m forced to defend or conform. I’m at a point where I don’t want to discuss politics ever again. But how can I let things just happen. (Like selling out to China, it’s like selling out to Hitler) but who am I to solve humanitarian issues. Have a blessed day, and enjoy this life because despite off of the chaos, it’s beautiful.
 

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Have a blessed day, and enjoy this life because despite off of the chaos, it’s beautiful.
This I do agree on. So I wish the same to you, and I'll guess we will pretty much leave it at that.

I truly didn't mean to come across as better or smarter, I wanted to have a debate about things, it was not my intention to try and make you seem stupid. Because I do not believe that you are stupid at all. I didn't feel like the argument you were countering with, was strong or sound enough. I know loads of Republicans who are highly intelligent and educated. I had a Sociology professor who was a strong Republican, and he was awesome, highly intelligent, and made so many great points which made me think about a lot of things. I believe that when we talk about hardcore Trump supporters we are not talking about the average or traditional Republican though.

I did not conduct the demographics studies myself that say who supports who. I personally have no clue how accurate they are. I just think that your using yourself as an example was not a strong enough example to disprove them. And I won't lie, I think you saying that that is toxic of me, is unfair and annoying. I take absolutely no joy whatsoever in thinking that other people, even stranger's feelings have been hurt. Whether they have the same or different political leanings from myself, and even if I feel they have been mean to me.

So I also wish you a blessed day 💛
 

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Ok again it seems like there is a lot to unpack here that doesn’t really go with what I said. Said ok college educated because I’ve heard from media sources that republican voters are not college educated, especially the women. And also I paid off Morley of my loans before I was a cam model, working multiple jobs. Also having an education is important and i hope I can maybe inspire someone else to further their education.
the left is very loud as well. But I don’t want to sound too partison so I will stop there. Also I never said I was a trump supporter, so I won’t even comment on that.
The logistics of converting our economy from oil to renewable energy is bigger than you can imagine I’m sure. But with the division and the refusal of sides to come together is saddening. Everyone wants to argue.
and what does quannon have to do with anything?! I didn’t even mention it! I can’t even have a nice conversation with you because you are twisting and turning my words. Any way god bless you too and I hope you have a great day.
Honestly I think there is no win/win here. It’s like we always have to defend even the choice or words we use and our viewpoints. The best thing is “agree to disagree” and as you stated wish them a nice day. I have noticed quite frequently woman are hard on other woman. Woman should really be nicer to each other, even ones they have opposing viewpoints from.
 

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I said god bless you, is that really so bad?

It all depends on context. I'm not religious, like at all, but I was raised in a religious family, in a religious area and went to Catholic school for the majority of my school years. There's a lot of people who use the "god bless you" religious stuff to act condescending and self-righteous, especially during arguments because they think it makes them morally superior. If someone said "god bless you" and actually meant it, I don't think most non-religious folk would mind. But the way you used it just came off as snarky and not at all genuine.

I know when im say I’m republican I know I’m going to have a slew of comments thrown at me that I’m forced to defend or conform.

It's not saying that you're Republican that gets you those "slew of comments thrown at you". It's the subsequent "alternative facts" that you follow with. At least in this thread. You were the one who was spewing propaganda.
 
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This I do agree on. So I wish the same to you, and I'll guess we will pretty much leave it at that.

I truly didn't mean to come across as better or smarter, I wanted to have a debate about things, it was not my intention to try and make you seem stupid. Because I do not believe that you are stupid at all. I didn't feel like the argument you were countering with, was strong or sound enough. I know loads of Republicans who are highly intelligent and educated. I had a Sociology professor who was a strong Republican, and he was awesome, highly intelligent, and made so many great points which made me think about a lot of things. I believe that when we talk about Trump supporters we are not talking about the average or traditional Republican though.

I did not conduct the demographics studies myself that say who supports who. I personally have no clue how accurate they are. I just think that your using yourself as an example was not a strong enough example to disprove them. And I won't lie, I think you saying that that is toxic of me, is unfair and annoying. I take absolutely no joy whatsoever in thinking that other people, even stranger's feelings have been hurt. Whether they have the same or different political leanings from myself, and even if I feel they have been mean to me.

So I also wish you a blessed day 💛
I think there was a lot of miscommunication and there is always so much more to say in politics. I’m just trying to point out that there are some level headed republicans out there as well as other parties, the extremists suck and are literally having a civil war in the streets. Politics sucks and the media makes everything seem so much worse. I’m sorry I called you toxic but I was annoyed you were not picking at what said and not seeing the bigger picture.
It all depends on context. I'm not religious, like at all, but I was raised in a religious family, in a religious area and went to Catholic school for the majority of my school years. There's a lot of people who use the "god bless you" religious stuff to act condescending and self-righteous, especially during arguments because they think it makes them morally superior. If someone said "god bless you" and actually meant it, I don't think most non-religious folk would mind. But the way you used it just came off as snarky and not at all genuine.



It's not saying that you're Republican that gets you those "slew of comments thrown at you". It's the subsequent "alternative facts" that you follow with. At least in this thread. You were the one who was spewing propaganda.
I did not state any alternative facts and I stand by that. And I am a genuinely nice person and I don’t need the approval by you or anyone else. I tell many to have a blessed day or god bless them because life is a gift and some people don’t realize that. And what propaganda was a spewing exactly?
 
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I think there was a lot of miscommunication and there is always so much more to say in politics. I’m just trying to point out that there are some level headed republicans out there as well as other parties, the extremists suck and are literally having a civil war in the streets. Politics sucks and the media makes everything seem so much worse. I’m sorry I called you toxic but I was annoyed you were not picking at what said and not seeing the bigger picture.
This I accept.
I apologize also, it was not my intention to talk down to you, or to hurt your feelings. I can see why were annoyed in that case, I did pick one thing and focus only on that part. I have OCD, and I do tend to do that. My apologies.

I couldn't agree with you more about there being lots of levels headed and intelligent Republicans.
I appreciate you sticking around and being real with me, I respect that a lot. Cheers.
 
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This I accept.
I apologize also, it was not my intention to talk down to you, or to hurt your feelings. I can see why were annoyed in that case, I did pick one thing and focus only on that part. I have OCD, and I do tend to do that. My apologies.

I couldn't agree with you more about there being lots of levels headed and intelligent Republicans.
I appreciate you sticking around and being real with me, I respect that. Cheers.
No one is perfect and I am far from that. Thanks for being so sweet 😘
 

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I did not state any alternative facts and I stand by that. And I am a genuinely nice person and I don’t need the approval by you or anyone else. I tell many to have a blessed day or god bless them because life is a gift and some people don’t realize that. And what propaganda was a spewing exactly?

I already pointed some of them out in my last post.

1. "I've seen Republicans get cancelled and name called". This sort of implies that Republicans that are being "cancelled" are having it done just because they are Republican. Every single one of the Republicans I've seen de-platformed, banned off of social media or cancelled were either spreading propaganda and unfounded conspiracy theories and/or actively calling for violence in the form of civil war.

2. You said Trump didn't blame situations on others and didn't use fear to rule, and then went on to say that it was people on "the left" who were doing that. Trump has blamed a lot on Obama, but I think one of his more outrageous claims was during the beginning of the Covid pandemic when Trump literally said Obama left him "empty cupboards" and "broken, obsolete tests"... for a virus that didn't even exist at the time. After Obama had put together a pandemic response team, which Trump disbanded once in office. During Trump's campaign rallies for the 2016 and 2020 election he played on his supporter's fears, saying how suburbs would cease to exist if Democrats came into office because they would go into their suburbs and build a bunch of low income housing (read: minorities would be moving into their neighborhoods). He said how America would be ruled by socialists (Biden isn't a socialist) and that China would eventually take over, despite the fact that Trump has actually praised Xi multiple times in the past. He was just using China as a new form of red scare. He lied multiple times about the accuracy of the election, months before the election even occurred to make people fearful and doubtful over election integrity so that if he lost he could claim "it was rigged! I said so all along!", which is what he did. I mean, there's countless examples of Trump using lies, fear mongering and casting the blame onto others.

3. "the left has been trying to do thing without precedent and acting like they don’t know due process!" @Brit already brought this up, but I'm curious what do you mean by this? I mean, not that it really matters because any court proceedings that Trump has been involved in, he has been granted due process. During the previous impeachment trial and this one he has been (and will be) able to defend himself.

4. "One key democratic agenda was to get rid of oil. Well thank you Biden for getting rid of oil production in the US, taking away millions of jobs from hard working Americans who work their asses off to support us " I previously replied to this with snark, but I'll be more serious. Biden and the Democrat's goal is to combat the climate crisis the entire planet is facing right now. The best way to do that is to focus on clean, renewable energy and try to get away from fossil fuels. Also, I would love to see where you are getting "millions of jobs lost" because of Biden.

5. "And now we are just going to give those money and jobs to the Middle East. Back to the US being a huge sellout where they rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
back to being sold out to China" The focus is on clean, renewable energy. Not "giving money and jobs to the Middle East". However, I'm sure you also had just as big of a problem with Trump's Saudi Arabian arms trade deal. Or how he literally rented out our troops to them. A country who Trump has personal business dealings with, might I add. Or the way he dealt with Kim Jong Un and Putin. I'm bringing this up because you said "back to" which implies that Trump wasn't selling us out to other foreign nations.

All of that was just from that one post. I know this is probably coming off as an attack, but honestly, it's not. I think spreading misinformation like this is dangerous. You claimed that you didn't want to be too partisan, but like, that's all your post was. And I'll just say this, I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. I'm proudly registered as No Party Preference, because I think there's a ton of issues with both major parties and even the minor parties. I'm pretty much right smack dab in the middle of the political spectrum. And I see a lot of this propaganda and blatantly untrue stuff and it annoys me, no matter what side it's coming from, and I think it's important to call it out when you see it.
 

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Hun. I’m a republican, and a conservative. I am college educated and I even paid off all of my student loans. I haven’t been political at all because I’ve been scared. I’ve seen republicans get cancelled and name called just like you are doing. What does being white or white passing have to do with anything? White women are still fighting for their rights! Also trump is not a facist. He doesn’t take a situation and blame it on someone else to gain power or use fear to rule. That’s a trend that was clearly seen on the left. Using trump as a scapegoat and using fear to sway Americans. Also the left has been trying to do thing without precedent and acting like they don’t know due process! If you can’t see what’s really going on then you are misinformed miss. Jump off that angry band wagon for a second and do some good research Of you are truly that passionate.
Also just to note. One key democratic agenda was to get rid of oil. Well thank you Biden for getting rid of oil production in the US, taking away millions of jobs from hard working Americans who work their asses off to support us... literally everything runs off oil. And now we are just going to give those money and jobs to the Middle East. Back to the US being a huge sellout where they rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
back to being sold out to China who- I could go on but if you know... you know, and you’re baffled by the ignorance. And if you don’t know, you should probably do more research because you could be doing more harm then good with letting out that pent up anger.
Biden singlehandedly got rid of a million jobs, huh? Since January 20? Really? Would love to see any information on this "fact" and the other "facts" you spewed. You claim to be college educated then you should know to cite sources for such monumental claims. Misinformation is a huge problem that is literally getting people killed. (I have dozens of sources to back that up if anyone needs a citation.)

I find it ironic that you filled a whole paragraph with "alternative facts" and then tell someone else to do better research. Thanks for the good laugh. Girl, I am not sure you know what research is. Finding clickbait articles/facebook posts that have 0 sources and confirm beliefs you already hold is not research. ( I am assuming based on some of the 'ideas' you hold - I know where this misinformation spawns from). Reading articles from a variety of sources especially publications you disagree with is the best way to get the whole picture. You saying "Trump is a scapegoat" shows that you have done zero actual research. Hundreds of historians and political scientists have reams of research connecting Trump's rhetoric to dangerous political movements of the past. It would behoove you to get acquainted with voices outside of your political bubble. It is dangerous to see the world with blinders on.

But I have hope for you. I used to be a conservative republican. Now I am just a human who gives a shit about other people and I don't need a politician or political party affiliation to reaffirm my ethics. Maybe don't tie your morality and worldview to a single political party, idea or person? The only way the Republican party will survive this turmoil is to take a stand against trump. He told 30,573 false or misleading claims in 4 years as President. source How the hell is he a scapegoat?

Ride or die is ignorant as fuck.
 
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want to throw out there that industries change all the time and go obsolete. when the automotive industry came into fruition, it destroyed the horse-related industries in the early 20th century. carriage makers and repairmen, breeders, trainers, stable workers, farriers, to the people who picked up horse dung on the road, and a lot more i can think of. millions of people worldwide lost their job or got less work. not to mention millions of horses were abandoned or euthanized.

my point is we have had shifts in energy in the past while having to let another die.

some nice reading material. :D
 
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Biden singlehandedly got rid of a million jobs, huh? Since January 20? Really? Would love to see any information on this "fact" and the other "facts" you spewed. You claim to be college educated then you should know to cite sources for such monumental claims. Misinformation is a huge problem that is literally getting people killed. (I have dozens of sources to back that up if anyone needs a citation.)

I find it ironic that you filled a whole paragraph with "alternative facts" and then tell someone else to do better research. Thanks for the good laugh. Girl, I am not sure you know what research is. Finding clickbait articles/facebook posts that have 0 sources and confirm beliefs you already hold is not research. ( I am assuming based on some of the 'ideas' you hold - I know where this misinformation spawns from). Reading articles from a variety of sources especially publications you disagree with is the best way to get the whole picture. You saying "Trump is a scapegoat" shows that you have done zero actual research. Hundreds of historians and political scientists have reams of research connecting Trump's rhetoric to dangerous political movements of the past. It would behoove you to get acquainted with voices outside of your political bubble. It is dangerous to see the world with blinders on.

But I have hope for you. I used to be a conservative republican. Now I am just a human who gives a shit about other people and I don't need a politician or political party affiliation to reaffirm my ethics. Maybe don't tie your morality and worldview to a single political party, idea or person? The only way the Republican party will survive this turmoil is to take a stand against trump. He told 30,573 false or misleading claims in 4 years as President. source How the hell is he a scapegoat?

Ride or die is ignorant as fuck.

I had my own opinions that I’m 100% entitled to. And that wasn’t me posting all tclick bait articles.
and yes if we are going to go back to getting our oil from the Middle East, we are giving those jobs away. And I was talking about the humanitarian issues in China!! And if that’s so wrong than I’m not sure what is right
 
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I had my own opinions that I’m 100% entitled to. And that wasn’t me posting all tclick bait articles.
and yes if we are going to go back to getting our oil from the Middle East, we are giving those jobs away. And I was talking about the humanitarian issues in China!! And if that’s so wrong than I’m not sure what is right
You can have opinions. But you didn't state your opinion. You presented false and misleading claims as facts and I am over here still waiting on a source for any of them. Having an opinion does not = the right to state said opinion. Some opinions are dangerous and false and cause people to die. Would you like my citations for the number of deaths in the USA this year alone from misinformation? An opinion is "Brunettes are smarter than blondes" and most people can identify this as opinion that is not based on genetic research. Nothing in your paragraph was an opinion, it was false and misleading.

You respond to all of us with "god bless" or basically "ok, bye" instead of backing up what you said. I will wait forever for you to cite a source for ANY claim you have made. Funny thing is, I don't have to google it. I know exactly how many jobs were lost and you're off by about 999,988. Bringing China up - uh. Every Trumpist's love-hate thing with that country. I bet you're house is full of shit stamped with "made in China" but yes, I would love to discuss China with you. Go ahead and share your thoughts on China. Let's start with facts, please, my head hurts from all the ironic laughing at your dangerous rhetoric.

Renewable energy = More Jobs for Americans and higher GDP and YES I have a source for this "opinion" (25+ sources actually).

Why you like oil so much boo? Dry skin?
 
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You can have opinions. But you didn't state your opinion. You presented false and misleading claims as facts and I am over here still waiting on a source for any of them. Having an opinion does not = the right to state said opinion. Some opinions are dangerous and false and cause people to die. Would you like my citations for the number of deaths in the USA this year alone from misinformation? An opinion is "Brunettes are smarter than blondes" and most people can identify this as opinion that is not based on genetic research. Nothing in your paragraph was an opinion, it was false and misleading.

You respond to all of us with "god bless" or basically "ok, bye" instead of backing up what you said. I will wait forever for you to cite a source for ANY claim you have made. Funny thing is, I don't have to google it. I know exactly how many jobs were lost and you're off by about 999,988. Bringing China up - uh. Every Trumpist's love-hate thing with that country. I bet you're house is full of shit stamped with "made in China" but yes, I would love to discuss China with you. Go ahead and share your thoughts on China. Let's start with facts, please, my head hurts from all the ironic laughing at your dangerous rhetoric.

Renewable energy = More Jobs for Americans and higher GDP and YES I have a source for this "opinion" (25+ sources actually).

Why you like oil so much boo? Dry skin?
Ugh China is causing a genocide of a their minority and enslaving children for labor. Sis we are not the same. I don’t care about selling out the country to corporations. I’m not going to argue so rn your self righteousness.
 
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Biden singlehandedly got rid of a million jobs, huh? Since January 20? Really? Would love to see any information on this "fact" and the other "facts" you spewed. You claim to be college educated then you should know to cite sources for such monumental claims. Misinformation is a huge problem that is literally getting people killed. (I have dozens of sources to back that up if anyone needs a citation.)

I find it ironic that you filled a whole paragraph with "alternative facts" and then tell someone else to do better research. Thanks for the good laugh. Girl, I am not sure you know what research is. Finding clickbait articles/facebook posts that have 0 sources and confirm beliefs you already hold is not research. ( I am assuming based on some of the 'ideas' you hold - I know where this misinformation spawns from). Reading articles from a variety of sources especially publications you disagree with is the best way to get the whole picture. You saying "Trump is a scapegoat" shows that you have done zero actual research. Hundreds of historians and political scientists have reams of research connecting Trump's rhetoric to dangerous political movements of the past. It would behoove you to get acquainted with voices outside of your political bubble. It is dangerous to see the world with blinders on.

But I have hope for you. I used to be a conservative republican. Now I am just a human who gives a shit about other people and I don't need a politician or political party affiliation to reaffirm my ethics. Maybe don't tie your morality and worldview to a single political party, idea or person? The only way the Republican party will survive this turmoil is to take a stand against trump. He told 30,573 false or misleading claims in 4 years as President. source How the hell is he a scapegoat?

Ride or die is ignorant as fuck.
You can have opinions. But you didn't state your opinion. You presented false and misleading claims as facts and I am over here still waiting on a source for any of them. Having an opinion does not = the right to state said opinion. Some opinions are dangerous and false and cause people to die. Would you like my citations for the number of deaths in the USA this year alone from misinformation? An opinion is "Brunettes are smarter than blondes" and most people can identify this as opinion that is not based on genetic research. Nothing in your paragraph was an opinion, it was false and misleading.

You respond to all of us with "god bless" or basically "ok, bye" instead of backing up what you said. I will wait forever for you to cite a source for ANY claim you have made. Funny thing is, I don't have to google it. I know exactly how many jobs were lost and you're off by about 999,988. Bringing China up - uh. Every Trumpist's love-hate thing with that country. I bet you're house is full of shit stamped with "made in China" but yes, I would love to discuss China with you. Go ahead and share your thoughts on China. Let's start with facts, please, my head hurts from all the ironic laughing at your dangerous rhetoric.

Renewable energy = More Jobs for Americans and higher GDP and YES I have a source for this "opinion" (25+ sources actually).

Why you like oil so much boo? Dry skin?
OMG! It’s like people on here just take every word you post and take it as if the person is stating facts. Most of it is just opinions. And then people just get attacked over and over because they don’t want to “defend” their stance. I mean it’s ridiculous. All seems like a total waste of time and energy.
 
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I had my own opinions that I’m 100% entitled to. And that wasn’t me posting all tclick bait articles.
and yes if we are going to go back to getting our oil from the Middle East, we are giving those jobs away. And I was talking about the humanitarian issues in China!! And if that’s so wrong than I’m not sure what is right

Well, the U.S. only imports a small amount of oil, but of the current 9% it imports, only 6% of that, or 0.54% of the total U.S. oil consumption is from the middle east. But regardless of that the U.S. has been increasingly investing in renewable energy sources for some time now, so the decline of oil is inevitable, and will give rise to jobs in new energy sectors.
 

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Ugh China is causing a genocide of a their minority and enslaving children for labor. Sis we are not the same. I don’t care about selling out the country to corporations. I’m not going to argue so rn your self righteousness.
Oh, thats what Trump Supporters care about with China today. . . Human rights. Yes, I am well aware of it. I am one those annoying people who write letters and call my elected officials about the Uyghur. Shutting people down only makes you look bad. You calling me self-righteous is an opinion and one you are entitled to but damn, you really don't want to have a conversation or back up any claims you have made.

I deleted facebook in June because majority of my family sounds like you. I missed the fun and warm fuzzy feelings I get from my "self-righteous" spewing of facts.

You are right, we are not the same. I embraced critical thinking in my 20s and fingers crossed for you to do the same.

So . . . you brought up China and the genocide of a minority. . . that has been happening for years . . . while Trump was President. His administration issued a statement on his final day in office after ignoring the roundups for years. Yes, let's talk about the genocide. I have so many questions.
 
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Exactly. Even though this is an inquiry on "WHY THIS?" the same can be said for any subject. It's just I inquired about this topic because it seems like a topic that is riskier than others. Based on what has been discussed so far, I would say this community confirms my assumptions about it. People are getting very up at arms just in this thread. Based on what I've seen in those chatrooms and mirroring what's been said here,
I can deduct that people like being polarized to a degree. Judging people is how we keep ourselves safe and how we keep the people that we feel are better for us in our circles. I know that's a very general thing to say, but camming is work, and a lot of people that are here and that I've been talking about have already been doing it for years. Most people come into this job with a strong personality, and of course changes are made over time to do what they feel is best for their profits.

I feel like people are forgetting that I started off this conversation saying that the Trump supporting models were actually making really good paper back when Trump was in office and Trump was running for re-election. I also said their tips dwindled down after the fascist got on that plane back to Florida.

This was more about building a whole personality of a cam show off of a politician than any kind of morality connected to it, because I also said the same thing about Joe Biden come out Harris even though I really didn't see any models out there for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris like I saw models out there for Trump.

I guess the conclusion is that they did what was profitable at the time, and now they have to find a new gimmick. It's just going to be hard to rebuild the reputation from this whole Trump supporting persona because they're still going to be the trolls and spammers from the other side that really don't have anything else to do but post nasty things in the chat. But even that will die down after a few weeks or months.

One of the Trump supporting models that I observed said she's been caming for 6 years, so she's probably seen it all, anyway. on one hand, it's definitely smart to profit off of how loose a lot of those Trump supporters were with their money. Buying all of those flags, buying the Trump merchandise and making a whole lot of Their own stuff, putting all of that energy into going to all of those rallies and posting all that stuff on the internet. She was making money off of people who had enough dedication to cause an insurrection. there was never a chat of hers that I didn't observe where people were tipping hundreds of tokens at a time just for talking about Trump. Of course she had to do something sexy every now and again, but she mostly spent her time in cam talking about politics naked and hugging her Trump pillow with the Trump flag in the background.

At the same time, for anyone who is paying attention to what that model was saying she would occasionally spout some very telling things. on my interpretation, she dropped a few hints that she didn't actually believe in Trump and she was just doing it for the money, and she didn't believe that he was going to win the election against Joe Biden, and she's been saying that since before Joe picked Kamala as VP.

I don't know if this model still has her Trump stuff, but based on her highly political Twitter she's probably picked a new gimmick by now. On her Twitter she supports Trump, other Trump supporting politicians, and people like Elon Musk (you know, the guy who ripped off sex workers back when he worked for PayPal). so whether she believes it or not, she's all about profiting off of people who believe in voting against their own interests because she practices support of people against her own interests. However, I also have reason to believe that she's very disingenuous and doing it for the money.

But it circles back around to your point. Do what makes that paper.

It sounds like she found a niche and she exploited it?
Would I do it? HELL no. I believe camming is an escape, so politics don't belong in it however, everyone is free to do what they want in their cam space.
 
It's up to the model whether or not they want to express their support on cam or on social media. But he/she should brace themselves for things to possibly go from 0 to 100 real quick...since there's so much division in politics. I try to keep that talk out of my room or keep it super brief if brought up, even though I'm pretty sure I blurted out "Happy Inauguration Daaayyy!" to someone on MFC on January 20th. Lol.

I have no idea who any of my viewers/tippers voted for, and it's not my business. As long as they're decent people in my room...aren't trying to start shit...and I don't catch them elsewhere (like on Twitter) blurting out some fucked-up shit, we should be okay. Because even if you are a great tipper, if I catch you on Twitter ranting about how the Central Park Five (Innocent teens who never should've spent a day in prison) are nothing but "thugs" who should've been executed, I'm gonna have a problem with that and I'm gonna tell you that I have a problem with that.

And with my shitty camscore, I really can't afford to be losing tippers...all over some dude who's a sore loser/bully who looks stiff as fuck trying to dance to "YMCA."


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Oh, thats what Trump Supporters care about with China today. . . Human rights. Yes, I am well aware of it. I am one those annoying people who write letters and call my elected officials about the Uyghur. Shutting people down only makes you look bad. You calling me self-righteous is an opinion and one you are entitled to but damn, you really don't want to have a conversation or back up any claims you have made.

I deleted facebook in June because majority of my family sounds like you. I missed the fun and warm fuzzy feelings I get from my "self-righteous" spewing of facts.

You are right, we are not the same. I embraced critical thinking in my 20s and fingers crossed for you to do the same.

So . . . you brought up China and the genocide of a minority. . . that has been happening for years . . . while Trump was President. His administration issued a statement on his final day in office after ignoring the roundups for years. Yes, let's talk about the genocide. I have so many questions.
You want me to back up my facts and yow won’t back up yours. Smh 🤦🏼‍♀️ have a great day, remember to be a good person.
 

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You want me to back up my facts and yow won’t back up yours. Smh 🤦🏼‍♀️ have a great day, remember to be a good person.
Again, shutting someone down rather than conversing. I am not sure what facts I need to back up - you could just ask for clarification? Is it when I shut my facebook down? Do you want a date on that? Or maybe pics of all the cool letters Reps and Senators send me to let me know they received my letters and what they are doing about said topic? If you like politics, you are going to love the letters that are handwritten. My favorite.

All joking aside. . . your lack of words makes me assume you mean the statement regarding the genocide by the trump admin? Here I googled it for you.

Satan's blessings to you babe, have a mediocre day
 
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Again, shutting someone down rather than conversing. I am not sure what facts I need to back up - when I shut my facebook down? Do you want a date on that? Or maybe pics of all the cool letters Reps and Senators send me to let me know they received my letters and what they are doing about said topic? If you like politics, you are going to love the letters that are handwritten. My favorite.

All joking aside. . . your lack of words makes me assume you mean the statement regarding the genocide by the trump admin? Here I googled it for you.

Satan's blessings to you babe, have a mediocre day
I’m sorry but trump was so anti China because he didn’t want to do trade with them because of their unethical trade practices. As heated as this discussions have been I’ve been nice and decent. You have not. I’m just staying quiet and letting you expose yourself for who you really are. To all the spectators, try this. Saw something triggering in a forum and watch people expose themselves. I’ll still wish you a good day and life and maybe you get everything you deserve.
 

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I’m sorry but trump was so anti China because he didn’t want to do trade with them because of their unethical trade practices. As heated as this discussions have been I’ve been nice and decent. You have not. I’m just staying quiet and letting you expose yourself for who you really are. To all the spectators, try this. Saw something triggering in a forum and watch people expose themselves. I’ll still wish you a good day and life and maybe you get everything you deserve.
I would love to have an actual conversation with you on what his tariffs did to American industries. Unfortunately the loss of capital was passed on to employees of the companies by way of missed bonuses and lack of pay raises (or worse).

Shutting down EVERY conversation I am attempting with you only makes you look bad. On the other hand, I look bad because I am a spicy bitch who is begging you to actually converse instead of "ok bye" to everyone who disagrees with you.

I exposed myself?! As what? A person with a different opinion? Sarcastic? Annoyingly progressive? lol. I am loving this. Never stop. I am so close to liberal orgasm.

Satan bless you boo 💋
 

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You want me to back up my facts and yow won’t back up yours.

You're the one who sparked all of this by saying untrue things, which has been called out multiple times by now (funnily enough, you haven't tried disputing either of my posts calling out your untrue statements, if you can refute them, I'd love to see your response), and then calling someone else "misinformed" and "baffled by ignorance". Have your own opinion, but don't try passing your opinions and propaganda that supports your opinions off as fact. After all, aren't conservatives the "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd? Because most of the time it seems like their feelings sure do care about facts that don't align with their own beliefs.

trump was so anti China

Orly? Was he anti-China when he was praising China on their Covid response via Twitter before he pivoted into his racist "ChYNa virus" fear mongering?


Or what about when he praised how Xi got rid of term limits? (Then again, we know just how much Trump loves his dictators)


And if you think that Trump's trade war with China led to benefits for the American consumer, and farmers, please explain why you think that, if you can.
 
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Ugh China is causing a genocide of a their minority and enslaving children for labor. Sis we are not the same. I don’t care about selling out the country to corporations. I’m not going to argue so rn your self righteousness.

Trump is the same president who signed a deal to sell $110 billion, in addition to $350 billion over 10 years, worth of arms to Saudia Arabia, a country that practices modern day slavery. I highly doubt that Trump's economic war had anything to do with human right's violations.

Edit: And lets not forget the fact that 15 of the 19 9/11 suicide bombers were Saudi, which is often swept under the rug. The fact is the United States doesn't, and has never, done anything regarding foreign relations that weren't purely in it's best interest. The human rights argument is only made to justify it's actions to the public.
 

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You're the one who sparked all of this by saying untrue things, which has been called out multiple times by now (funnily enough, you haven't tried disputing either of my posts calling out your untrue statements, if you can refute them, I'd love to see your response), and then calling someone else "misinformed" and "baffled by ignorance". Have your own opinion, but don't try passing your opinions and propaganda that supports your opinions off as fact. After all, aren't conservatives the "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd? Because most of the time it seems like their feelings sure do care about facts that don't align with their own beliefs.



Orly? Was he anti-China when he was praising China on their Covid response via Twitter before he pivoted into his racist "ChYNa virus" fear mongering?


Or what about when he praised how Xi got rid of term limits? (Then again, we know just how much Trump loves his dictators)


And if you think that Trump's trade war with China led to benefits for the American consumer, and farmers, please explain why you think that, if you can.
Can i say thank you for this? An an anxious autistic I was really questioning myself. Sometimes over-confidence from others makes me think I am wrong regardless of reality/facts. I went back and read more of others posts and I am glad I am not the only one who called this misinformation out. Framing opinions as facts is dangerous and I will make it my life's work to help Americans break the addiction or I guess I will emigrate hahahaha
 

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trump's trade war and raising tariffs really hurt the steel industry and others. the profitable scrapyard my father worked at had to close as result a couple of years ago.

 

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Trump is the same president who signed a deal to sell $110 billion, in addition to $350 billion over 10 years, worth of arms to Saudia Arabia, a country that practices modern day slavery. I highly doubt that Trump's economic war had anything to do with human right's violations.

Edit: And lets not forget the fact that 15 of the 19 9/11 suicide bombers were Saudi, which is often swept under the rug. The fact is the united States doesn't, and has never, done anything regarding foreign relations that weren't purely in it's best interest.

It honestly boggles my mind how conservatives were never pissed over his dealings with Saudi Arabia. If Obama, or any Democrat, had done the same thing, especially if they had personal business dealings with that country, Republicans would have been foaming at the mouth. Trump didn't even condemn the Saudi government or leader for murdering and dismembering a journalist, FFS.

He also had all his love letters with Kim Jong Un and his private conversations with Putin, two people who I'm preeeeetttyyy sure don't care about human rights.

Edit: Wanted to also mention what happened with the Kurds. How they were our allies and how Trump abandoned them by pulling out our troops when he knew they were going to be invaded (and likely killed) by Turkish forces and how Trump, very conveniently, had business dealings with Turkey. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe at the same time he pulled out those troops was when he rented out troops to Saudi Arabia. And (again, correct me if I'm wrong) Russia took over American military outposts in the area.

But yeah, Trump cares about human rights and not just his own personal interests.
 
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trump's trade war and raising tariffs really hurt the steel industry and others. the profitable scrapyard my father worked at had to close as result a couple of years ago.

Damn, that makes me sad. I hope your dad is doing ok after losing his job. My partner is an engineer and it really effected a lot of employee in his industry. Not the companies. His company had record profits because of a trump tax break and still withheld bonuses, pay raises, and even forced a pay cut (20%!!), AND laid off a quarter of the workforce at his company. Someone please tell me how adding the tariff benefited American workers? Like seriously, this lie is spouted all the time and I can't find evidence of a boon to the American people. My bf's company even built new factories overseas in 3rd world countries using all their new capital (i.e your money if you pay taxes in America). Not a single job created for Americans at this company based of the tariffs and the tax break.
 
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Again, shutting someone down rather than conversing. I am not sure what facts I need to back up - you could just ask for clarification? Is it when I shut my facebook down? Do you want a date on that? Or maybe pics of all the cool letters Reps and Senators send me to let me know they received my letters and what they are doing about said topic? If you like politics, you are going to love the letters that are handwritten. My favorite.

All joking aside. . . your lack of words makes me assume you mean the statement regarding the genocide by the trump admin? Here I googled it for you.

Satan's blessings to you babe, have a mediocre day
Trump is the same president who signed a deal to sell $110 billion, in addition to $350 billion over 10 years, worth of arms to Saudia Arabia, a country that practices modern day slavery. I highly doubt that Trump's economic war had anything to do with human right's violations.

Edit: And lets not forget the fact that 15 of the 19 9/11 suicide bombers were Saudi, which is often swept under the rug. The fact is the United States doesn't, and has never, done anything regarding foreign relations that weren't purely in it's best interest. The human rights argument is only made to justify it's actions to the public.
Ok but he is not the first nor will he be the last.
 
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It honestly boggles my mind how conservatives were never pissed over his dealings with Saudi Arabia. If Obama, or any Democrat, had done the same thing, especially if they had personal business dealings with that country, Republicans would have been foaming at the mouth. Trump didn't even condemn the Saudi government or leader for murdering and dismembering a journalist, FFS.

He also had all his love letters with Kim Jong Un and his private conversations with Putin, two people who I'm preeeeetttyyy sure don't care about human rights.

Edit: Wanted to also mention what happened with the Kurds. How they were our allies and how Trump abandoned them by pulling out our troops when he knew they were going to be invaded (and likely killed) by Turkish forces and how Trump, very conveniently, had business dealings with Turkey. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe at the same time he pulled out those troops was when he rented out troops to Saudi Arabia. And (again, correct me if I'm wrong) Russia took over American military outposts in the area.

But yeah, Trump cares about human rights and not just his own personal interests.
Obama did do the same thing!!
 
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